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    Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

    That's complete nonsense.

    If I fed Inoue until he was 135lbs & put him in the ring with Tank Davis, you & I know that Tank would be a HUGE advantage, even if on fight night, they were the same weight.

    Again, weight classes exist for a reason. It's because it's unfair for naturally bigger men to be fighting naturally smaller men.
    Tank Davis is a WW fight night thats not how Manny Oscar was, if Inoue was 135 on fight night and Davis was 134 on fight night , Davis gets killed, you just dont understand Oscar came down 20lbs and Manny went up 4, thats real weight, not 17 which is 3 divisions. you only got to get your head around the mathematics but the fanboy wont let you.

    If you weight 144 on fight night with a 130 weighin and you way 148 with a 147 weighin,,,,, what s the difference? I assure they are real numbers and not nonsense to anyone that knows boxing, has boxed, has trained fighters etc etc, the divisions sound better oh he went up 3 weight classes which is 17 pounds but the real weight says Manny went up 4 pounds, quite a difference which is why when looking at the merit and how fans like to pump the tyres up of their favorite fighters 17 pounds is total BS and thats why your idea is nonsense because it totally ignores the real numbers.

    Weight classes exist to break up the divisions across the weight scale of humans, everybody gets a go, the 30 hr weighin and rehydration totally changes what it means, because so much weight is lost and found in water, the way fanboys go on about divisions and ignore fight night weight is so ignorant to the fight itself, even same day weighins were in the morning they still rehydrated a lot of weight although not as much as they do today because of having 30hrs.

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      Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

      It was.

      Horn was at least in Pac's weight class.

      He didn't drag him up 2 weight classes

      And Horn was a replacement for Amir Khan, who Pac was supposed to be fighting in Abu Dhabi, but when that fight fell through, the Australian government stepped in & offered Pac a bunch of money to fight in Australia, which is why that's where the fight was.
      Bigger is always better
      Khan sounds about right for Pac
      I chinny AF, overly hyped guy who did nothing with his career except talk about how great he was

      Would that excuse be acceptable with Pac fans if May fought HORN ?!?!?!?

      HORN is boxings biggest cherry (CPGW)

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        Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

        Tank Davis is a WW fight night thats not how Manny Oscar was, if Inoue was 135 on fight night and Davis was 134 on fight night , Davis gets killed, you just dont understand Oscar came down 20lbs and Manny went up 4, thats real weight, not 17 which is 3 divisions. you only got to get your head around the mathematics but the fanboy wont let you.

        If you weight 144 on fight night with a 130 weighin and you way 148 with a 147 weighin,,,,, what s the difference? I assure they are real numbers and not nonsense to anyone that knows boxing, has boxed, has trained fighters etc etc, the divisions sound better oh he went up 3 weight classes which is 17 pounds but the real weight says Manny went up 4 pounds, quite a difference which is why when looking at the merit and how fans like to pump the tyres up of their favorite fighters 17 pounds is total BS and thats why your idea is nonsense because it totally ignores the real numbers.

        Weight classes exist to break up the divisions across the weight scale of humans, everybody gets a go, the 30 hr weighin and rehydration totally changes what it means, because so much weight is lost and found in water, the way fanboys go on about divisions and ignore fight night weight is so ignorant to the fight itself, even same day weighins were in the morning they still rehydrated a lot of weight although not as much as they do today because of having 30hrs.
        Tank Davis is not a WW. Stop it.

        Guy's 5'5" & is pretty much at his limit at 135.

        Anybody can eat enough to get on a scale.

        The issue is is has your body acclimated to the weight

        Inoue is not beating Tank at 135. You're on crack.

        Even Inoue himself knows that's not true

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          Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

          Bigger is always better
          Khan sounds about right for Pac
          I chinny AF, overly hyped guy who did nothing with his career except talk about how great he was

          Would that excuse be acceptable with Pac fans if May fought HORN ?!?!?!?

          HORN is boxings biggest cherry (CPGW)
          Mayweather chose to fight Andre Berto & dragged JMM up two weight classes to fight.

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            Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

            Tank Davis is not a WW. Stop it.

            Guy's 5'5" & is pretty much at his limit at 135.

            Anybody can eat enough to get on a scale.

            The issue is is has your body acclimated to the weight

            Inoue is not beating Tank at 135. You're on crack.

            Even Inoue himself knows that's not true
            What does Davis weigh on fight night?

            Stop with the unrelated analogies we are not talking about bozo on the street eating hotdogs to weigh a weight, we are talking highly trained athletes that lose water to meet the rules and put it back on again to be as big as they can be for the fight.

            I cant believe how blind you are, you are ignoring fight night weight in every part of the conversation that is typical of a fanboy. Well I can see youre a typical fan that ducks and weaves around the facts, the weight numbers are there, why dont you take notice of them.

            Again very clear, If Inoue was 135 on fight night and Tank was 134 on fight night , Inoue will stop him, if they weighed in at 135 Tank would be close to 147 on fight night, is that dumbed down enough for you, when you mention a weight dont confuse weighin and fight night weights they are entirely different.

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              Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

              Mayweather chose to fight Andre Berto & dragged JMM up two weight classes to fight.
              Here you go again with your fan BS , youre stuck in division land and know nothing of fight night weight, you make a great fanboy.

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                Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

                Mayweather chose to fight Andre Berto & dragged JMM up two weight classes to fight.
                Berto > Rios, Broner, Lucas, HORN, Clottey, DHL*
                Being "dragged" up > Being dragged down

                Anything else ?

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                  Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                  How do Manny fanboys ignore the real numbers, just how the fck can you be so lame
                  What was the fight night weight with Floyd and that Japanese kickboxer

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                    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                    What does Davis weigh on fight night?

                    Stop with the unrelated analogies we are not talking about bozo on the street eating hotdogs to weigh a weight, we are talking highly trained athletes that lose water to meet the rules and put it back on again to be as big as they can be for the fight.

                    I cant believe how blind you are, you are ignoring fight night weight in every part of the conversation that is typical of a fanboy. Well I can see youre a typical fan that ducks and weaves around the facts, the weight numbers are there, why dont you take notice of them.

                    Again very clear, If Inoue was 135 on fight night and Tank was 134 on fight night , Inoue will stop him, if they weighed in at 135 Tank would be close to 147 on fight night, is that dumbed down enough for you, when you mention a weight dont confuse weighin and fight night weights they are entirely different.
                    Guy, you're just competely lost the plot.

                    There's no circumstance in which Inoue will beat Tank at this stage in their careers..

                    I don't care what they weight on "fight night" .

                    Inoue's not used to being hit by a full lightweight, especially one of the 2 or 3 biggest punchers in the sport..

                    This isn't getting hit by Stephen Fulton, here

                    This is one of the biggest punchers in the sport. He will be hurt, badly.

                    Weight divisions matter.

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                      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                      Here you go again with your fan BS , youre stuck in division land and know nothing of fight night weight, you make a great fanboy.
                      Neither Manny, nor Floyd are anywhere near my top 10 favorite fighters.

                      I'm a fan of boxing.

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