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    Whose taking over when Canelo Retires?

    This may have been talked about before, but it is getting closer and I don't think there has been a definitive fighter that is consistent and brings the audience to watch at a global level, the same way Mayweather and Pacquiao did before him. Ryan Garcia? Inconsistent and a mental basket case. Tank Davis? I don't think he's hit a global level similar to Canelo. Plus, whoever this person is, they need to at minimum fight twice a year. A lot of these new guys want 1 per year and you can't keep folks interested with that low activity rate. Inoue? Awesome fighter, but I don't see him making it big with the casuals. Crawford? The dude sidelined himself for over a year following the biggest win in his career. He's 37, about to have a gets old overnight moment and be out.

    Whose upcoming that you see a Caneloesque following in addition to their work ethic and activity?

    #2
    Junto if he has the skill and size to be lightweight king

    Japanese but fighting out of the US and trained by a Mexican-American. So Junto is Western Hemispheric. Westerners have an edge when it comes to stardom

    plus Junto vaguely looks like the last Asian super star manny pacq
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      #3
      Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
      This may have been talked about before, but it is getting closer and I don't think there has been a definitive fighter that is consistent and brings the audience to watch at a global level, the same way Mayweather and Pacquiao did before him. Ryan Garcia? Inconsistent and a mental basket case. Tank Davis? I don't think he's hit a global level similar to Canelo. Plus, whoever this person is, they need to at minimum fight twice a year. A lot of these new guys want 1 per year and you can't keep folks interested with that low activity rate. Inoue? Awesome fighter, but I don't see him making it big with the casuals. Crawford? The dude sidelined himself for over a year following the biggest win in his career. He's 37, about to have a gets old overnight moment and be out.

      Whose upcoming that you see a Caneloesque following in addition to their work ethic and activity?
      Well, if you’re talking his style and power. I cant say. Outside of that I see Keyshawn Davis, Shakur, Abdulla Mason. Also the ****** Russians are very disciplined and strong.

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        #4
        Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

        Well, if you’re talking his style and power. I cant say. Outside of that I see Keyshawn Davis, Shakur, Abdulla Mason. Also the ****** Russians are very disciplined and strong.
        which Russians?

        Bivol is soft-spoken

        Artur is a laconic

        Usyk is funny but soon to be 38

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          #5
          Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
          Junto if he has the skill and size to be lightweight king

          Japanese but fighting out of the US and trained by a Mexican-American. So Junto is Western Hemispheric. Westerners have an edge when it comes to stardom

          plus Junto vaguely looks like the last Asian super star manny pacq
          I don't know if Junto is global superstar quality. First, he needs to fight in the US often. I probably should have mentioned that originally. Second, adding English can help make him reach more fans. I'm not sure if he does speak it already or not, but at least Pac did that immediately and Canelo has damn near perfect English at this point. Even Cotto did his best and that helped him earn a lot of fans.

          Let's not forget though, sometimes the lighter weight classes don't get picked up as easy with the fans globally unless there's a catch. Pacquiao came up during a time when there were huge stars in the lighter weights with Barrera, Morales, Hamed who made tons of noise around that time. It helped Pacquiao who again, worked his English and fought all the folks at those lighter weight classes to get his name going. Then he hit the cash cows like ODLH when he went up in weight.

          Crawford also wasn't as big until he went up to WW and finally got his career defining breakout to the masses fight, but probably too late.

          Honestly, if Ryan Garcia had Oscar Dela Hoya's work ethics and mental strength, he should have been the next after Canelo. Right age, looks and personality. Though he mostly blew it.
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            #6
            Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post

            Well, if you’re talking his style and power. I cant say. Outside of that I see Keyshawn Davis, Shakur, Abdulla Mason. Also the ****** Russians are very disciplined and strong.
            I don't know man. Hard to tell with someone like Mason yet, but Davis needs more personality, Shakur is hit and miss, with a lot of miss with the fans due to how he decides to snooze the crowd many times. I'm not sure a Russian at this point in time is going to be a global mega star.

            Even still, there is a spark these guys mentioned are missing, including Shakur. You need some excitement or throwing out some crazy comments once in a while during an interview that make folks laugh and get with you. A lot of these new dudes are dry.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
              which Russians?

              Bivol is soft-spoken

              Artur is a laconic

              Usyk is funny but soon to be 38


              M-uslim Russians. Im talking potentially GREAT HOF fighters not tank/Charlo corporate fighters.

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                #8
                Originally posted by ELPacman View Post

                I don't know man. Hard to tell with someone like Mason yet, but Davis needs more personality, Shakur is hit and miss, with a lot of miss with the fans due to how he decides to snooze the crowd many times. I'm not sure a Russian at this point in time is going to be a global mega star.

                Even still, there is a spark these guys mentioned are missing, including Shakur. You need some excitement or throwing out some crazy comments once in a while during an interview that make folks laugh and get with you. A lot of these new dudes are dry.

                Canelo didnt have much of a personality most of his career. Lately he's been funny.
                Great fighters are the ones who WANT to fight other GREAT fighters. Personalities don't matter if their whipping them soundly.

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                  #9
                  jesse rodriguez deserves it. he is young (24 is young, 30 is not). he has the best style. his resume is almost hof worthy. there are big challenges near his division (junto, naoya). usa, mexico and tv/stream stations would support him. ryan, shakur and tank are nobodies compared to jesse.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ELPacman View Post

                    I don't know if Junto is global superstar quality. First, he needs to fight in the US often. I probably should have mentioned that originally. Second, adding English can help make him reach more fans. I'm not sure if he does speak it already or not, but at least Pac did that immediately and Canelo has damn near perfect English at this point. Even Cotto did his best and that helped him earn a lot of fans.

                    Let's not forget though, sometimes the lighter weight classes don't get picked up as easy with the fans globally unless there's a catch. Pacquiao came up during a time when there were huge stars in the lighter weights with Barrera, Morales, Hamed who made tons of noise around that time. It helped Pacquiao who again, worked his English and fought all the folks at those lighter weight classes to get his name going. Then he hit the cash cows like ODLH when he went up in weight.

                    Crawford also wasn't as big until he went up to WW and finally got his career defining breakout to the masses fight, but probably too late.

                    Honestly, if Ryan Garcia had Oscar Dela Hoya's work ethics and mental strength, he should have been the next after Canelo. Right age, looks and personality. Though he mostly blew it.
                    Cotto is an American too

                    Ryan is the Mexican-American Broner. More concerned with being a celebrity than a boxer. Letting the fame go to one’s head
                    Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post



                    M-uslim Russians. Im talking potentially GREAT HOF fighters not tank/Charlo corporate fighters.
                    I think Chechen Artur’s success will push more of those Mountain Russians into boxing

                    Mountain Russians are tough and master wrestlers. MMA has been soaking up all of the Mountain Russian talent

                    Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post


                    Canelo didnt have much of a personality most of his career. Lately he's been funny.
                    Great fighters are the ones who WANT to fight other GREAT fighters. Personalities don't matter if they’re whipping them soundly.
                    People find Alvarez funny because he’s a famous great fighter

                    the biggest stars are talkers who beat other greats

                    one can become the PPV king without being the most exciting style
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