Comments Thread For: Naoya Inoue Dropped But Brutally Destroys Luis Nery in Six Rounds

[Elheath]

Because width and frame and thickness of the body matters hence they are weight class and not height class? Saying it reverse do you think Tank Davis at age 20 would've been able to hit 108 had he had a better diet?

Pacman is a combination of youth, poverty and malnutrition put together which won't happen in a developed country these days. Of course he was also a genetic freak of a nature to his credit but while people focus on that he won his first belt at flyweight but keep in mind that by the time he hit his 20s his next division was superbantam weight which is the weight class Inoue is fighting in right now at age 31.

[_Rexy_]

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Why did you ignore PAC? He’s won titles at 147 and he’s 5’5.

Tank is 5’5 and won a title at 130 which is higher than 126 so I am responding to the Bullshït opinion that Inoue cannot fight at 130 or higher so I haven’t examples.

Oh so you think they’re “height classes” then.

in that case, Tank can fight him at 122 right?

[_Rexy_]

Because width and frame and thickness of the body matters hence they are weight class and not height class? Saying it reverse do you think Tank Davis at age 20 would've been able to hit 108 had he had a better diet?

Pacman is a combination of youth, poverty and malnutrition put together which won't happen in a developed country these days. Of course he was also a genetic freak of a nature to his credit but while people focus on that he won his first belt at flyweight but keep in mind that by the time he hit his 20s his next division was superbantam weight which is the weight class Inoue is fighting in right now at age 31.

Pac lost 2 titles on the scales. He never should have started his career as low as he did. He always hydrated up hard

[Oregonian]

Oh so you think they’re “height classes” then.

in that case, Tank can fight him at 122 right?

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What is your argument? I am responding to someone who said Inoue cannot fight past 126 Ibs. I point out that PAC and Tank are 5’5 and have fought above 126. This fact negates the nonsense that Inoue cannot fight at 130 or even 135.

But to respond your last goalpost shift, PAC fought as low as 105 Ibs,

But let’s skip the metaphorical examples and be direct; do you think Inoue cannot compete at 130 Ibs?

[_Rexy_]

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What is your argument? I am responding to someone who said Inoue cannot fight past 126 Ibs. I point out that PAC and Tank are 5’5 and have fought above 126. This fact negates the nonsense that Inoue cannot fight at 130 or even 135.

But to respond your last goalpost shift, PAC fought as low as 105 Ibs,

But let’s skip the metaphorical examples and be direct; do you think Inoue cannot compete at 130 Ibs?

What's my argument? My argument is that body types are different, and that they're weight classes and not height classes.

Do you think Fundora cannot compete at heavyweight?

As for my "Goalpost shift" (IE me calling you out on bringing up Tank Davis?) Manny missed weight at 105, 112, 115...he had no business starving himself to make those weights. That's why he got KTFO twice by club fighters. Unless you think it's a coincindece he lost his 112 belt on the scale and then 3 months later was fighting at 122 and never went back below that?

[Oregonian]

What's my argument? My argument is that body types are different, and that they're weight classes and not height classes.

Do you think Fundora cannot compete at heavyweight?

As for my "Goalpost shift" (IE me calling you out on bringing up Tank Davis?) Manny missed weight at 105, 112, 115...he had no business starving himself to make those weights. That's why he got KTFO twice by club fighters. Unless you think it's a coincindece he lost his 112 belt on the scale and then 3 months later was fighting at 122 and never went back below that?

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Inoue is fighting at 122 and it’s not unfathomable for him to move to 126 or even 130.
To use Fundora as your rebuttal is just you being argumentative. You are equating moving up 1 or 2 weight class which total no more than 8 Ibs to moving from 154 to Heavyweight, which is 5 weight classes and over 50 Ibs. That’s being argumentative.

Not to drag this on, I see you have Inoue on your top P4P list so let’s just connect when he does move up to 126 so I can hear your excuses.

[BustedKnuckles]

This was basically the Fulton fight all over again other than the KD, so what he got dropped early by a big puncher who is a naturally bigger guy. Then got up, wasn't really that rocked and from rd 2 until he scored the ko broke him down and dominated.

People expect too much if an early kd is a knock on a fighter.

Obviously Inoue is a truly great fighter. But if you keep moving up, eventually you hit your top. That's just logic, and it's the point of moving up, to keep challenging oneself.

Was this like when Loma moved up and got dropped by Linares? I don't think Loma belongs at his current weight. And that start was a harbinger of the challenges he has faced at this level.

So Inoue may dominate this weight class. But if he keeps moving up, he'll eventually find his celing. He's world class tho.

[Elheath]

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Inoue is fighting at 122 and it’s not unfathomable for him to move to 126 or even 130.
To use Fundora as your rebuttal is just you being argumentative. You are equating moving up 1 or 2 weight class which total no more than 8 Ibs to moving from 154 to Heavyweight, which is 5 weight classes and over 50 Ibs. That’s being argumentative.

Not to drag this on, I see you have Inoue on your top P4P list so let’s just connect when he does move up to 126 so I can hear your excuses.

Inoue STARTED at 108, then went through 115 and 118 and currently at 122. Currently 14 above his initial which will be 18 next year when he inevitably moves to 126. 130 would put him 22 above his initial or 20% above his start weight, or in the case of 135 that is 25% above his starting weight.
Tank STARTED at 130 and is currently at 135. 20% above his starting weight would be him fighting at 156, and 162.5 for 25%. Heck, even when looking just at raw numbers, Tank would be fighting at 147 next year if he went with the same pace.

[Oregonian]

Inoue STARTED at 108, then went through 115 and 118 and currently at 122. Currently 14 above his initial which will be 18 next year when he inevitably moves to 126. 130 would put him 22 above his initial or 20% above his start weight, or in the case of 135 that is 25% above his starting weight.
Tank STARTED at 130 and is currently at 135. 20% above his starting weight would be him fighting at 156, and 162.5 for 25%. Heck, even when looking just at raw numbers, Tank would be fighting at 147 next year if he went with the same pace.

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While all of what you say is true, there is a reason Inoue is called Monster. I agree 135 is too much but 126 is an almost guaranteed jump and maybe 130 depending on how he does at 126.

The thing about matchmaking is, to make history ALL one has to do is fight the weakest guys at the higher weight class.
PAC fought once at 135 against Diaz and once at 154 a catchweight of 150 against a washed up Margarito AND for a vacant title.
Brioner fought Malignaggi at 147 because he knew Malignaggi had no power.

Inoue can do the same but I don’t think he will

[Someone88]

Wow! Yes! That was a very entertaining fight! Nery did well. Great win and congratulations to Naoya Inoue on remaining the Undisputed Super Bantamweight Champion!