Did Oscar Take A Dive

[scap]

Ok the namecalling is uncalled for. Pretty sad when you have to resort to that.

I will address your points and avoid the childish remarks...

First, I hope you are right about Golden Boy Productions. MAB was an HBO fighter b4 DLH stepped in. No, I never said that RJJ Sugar Ray and DLH are equal in $$$$. I could care less who has more money. I am a fight fan. I am a fan for the fighters not who has the most money. I suppose if Bob and King got in the ring that would be better for their fighters too... LOL

What I meant (and if you think about it)
If DLH stepped out of the ring and devoted his efforts to Goldenboy productions' fighters; Not himself, he could get a decent push for his guys. If you are going to promote fighters, then do it. Oscar has to think about his next fight and not worry about his other fighters. Oh yea, the money

Mab was a hbo fighter your right and he still is, he is just promoted under Oscar now where is the relevance with this remark?. Are you going to hold it against Oscar when he signs Winky Wright or Shane Mosley by saying they were HBO guys before they were with Oscar, does that not count??? I don't mean to insult you but you appear to missing the point. I am very fortunate person in the fact that I get to discuss some of these very same issues with Goldenboypromotions/donking and others. Money is what the fight/promotional game is all about...you would be very surprised as I was to learn about many of the big time promoters in this game that have there checks bounce! You brought up Sugar Ray, He company never reached what Oscar's has and Golden boy has been around for a very short period. You maucked HBO LAtino why? This is how company start out! Before PAcman destroyed Barerra Goldie in his second year a fight promoting had a fighter in the top 5 pound for pound, it does not get any better than that and it certainly does not get any quicker than that.

What are you arguing again? Your very first reply was sarcastic referring to Sugar Ray, do you take that back because thats what it sounds like. You don't think Golden boy is giving it his full effort...do you realize that he ahas a very experienced fight team in place headed by Richard Schaeffer and Roy Englebreacht? These guys no what they are doing and they have the financial backing of a multimultimultimillionaire. OScar is at every LAtino show and nearly every telefutura show...did you watch his up and coming superstar Ponce Deleon last friday? HE will be on hbo too someday soon! Yet you talk about Oscar getting a "decent push", show me another promoter who has done more in less time than Oscar...show me, educate me please....he is going as fast as this business will allow!

Let me ask you this 1god, who would you rather fight for if you were a world class prizefighter...Oscar/Bernard......Don......Bob...Frank Warren.....who?

[Moon]

the knockout blow was certainly su****ious.

Exactly. Especially given the steady thumping DLH was getting as the "KO" approached. But, ya' can't ignore that DLH got hit by a leverage hook that "stuck".

[Xecutioner]

That punch looks like less & less with each passing shot.

C'mon everyone.....look at it....it STINKS.

look at the ripple on oscar body after that shot lands and how his body reacts to the punch. remember how fit oscar was for this fight, if this wasnt a real punch it wouldnt make a dent in his body the way that it does. oscar immediately starts covering up his body leaving his head WIDE open, an obvious sign that a body shot has hit its mark. when body shots arent having an effect the fighter will keep their hands up (recent example look at winky vs shane). oscar starts folding up like a lawn chair. just remember that clip is in slow motion, all that happened very quickly.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Clean shot...
I also liked the fight.
Jabs, you don't know what you're talking about..

[WillieW]

Yeah, think that was a pretty cleen shot and it most likely did hurt him. But that wasn't a show stopping punch. Livershots tend to be more effective a little bit lower and a bit more to the front of the fighter. That shot landed right on Oscars rib-cage. It definately looked like it hurt, but I don't think it was the terminal "Micky Ward" style shot that would end the fight.

Oh, the fight was entertaining.

[The1God]

Mab was a hbo fighter your right and he still is, he is just promoted under Oscar now where is the relevance with this remark?. Are you going to hold it against Oscar when he signs Winky Wright or Shane Mosley by saying they were HBO guys before they were with Oscar, does that not count??? I don't mean to insult you but you appear to missing the point. I am very fortunate person in the fact that I get to discuss some of these very same issues with Goldenboypromotions/donking and others. Money is what the fight/promotional game is all about...you would be very surprised as I was to learn about many of the big time promoters in this game that have there checks bounce! You brought up Sugar Ray, He company never reached what Oscar's has and Golden boy has been around for a very short period. You maucked HBO LAtino why? This is how company start out! Before PAcman destroyed Barerra Goldie in his second year a fight promoting had a fighter in the top 5 pound for pound, it does not get any better than that and it certainly does not get any quicker than that.

What are you arguing again? Your very first reply was sarcastic referring to Sugar Ray, do you take that back because thats what it sounds like. You don't think Golden boy is giving it his full effort...do you realize that he ahas a very experienced fight team in place headed by Richard Schaeffer and Roy Englebreacht? These guys no what they are doing and they have the financial backing of a multimultimultimillionaire. OScar is at every LAtino show and nearly every telefutura show...did you watch his up and coming superstar Ponce Deleon last friday? HE will be on hbo too someday soon! Yet you talk about Oscar getting a "decent push", show me another promoter who has done more in less time than Oscar...show me, educate me please....he is going as fast as this business will allow!

Let me ask you this 1god, who would you rather fight for if you were a world class prizefighter...Oscar/Bernard......Don......Bob...Frank Warren.....who?

It is almost pointless to argue the topic, I am not a reporter nor do I pretend to be involved with the big promoters. I do not and will not play make-believe. Sure I could could come back and say "well I am good friends with Don King and have been for years" but sorry I am stating my opinion, not trying to impress you.

[Raymo]

i Agree, there was nothing wrong with fight. DLH just could take his power!

[Raymo]

i Agree, there was nothing wrong with fight. DLH just couldn't take his power!

[scap]

It is almost pointless to argue the topic, I am not a reporter nor do I pretend to be involved with the big promoters. I do not and will not play make-believe. Sure I could could come back and say "well I am good friends with Don King and have been for years" but sorry I am stating my opinion, not trying to impress you.

I do not know Don King and I am certainly not trying to impress you(members of his team is a different story), you brought up a number of things with regards to Golden boy and you were obviously out of your element, just like Donny in the BIG LEBOWSKI. "1god your out of you ****in element." If you are sure I am playing make believe then private message me, I will give you some background information and some urls which lead to my work. I will also show/tell you exactly what you can expect in the near future from two of the three major boxing promoters with regards to their web presence.

I agree the argument is now pointless, just make sure you own up when Goldie is on top of the promotional game. Setting the meaness aside think about Golden boy for a second...he currently has Oscar Delahoya, Marco Antonio Barerra and Bernard Hopkins...Sugar Ray Leonard would have died for the chance/opportunity in retrospect too promote while he was still fighting...Oscar also has a number of young up and comers that will be fighting on HBO showtime in the near future, imagine if Kelson Pinto had pulled off the upset, he would have had the best prospect in the world.(I know if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle). Anyways all fun aside it is nothing short of astounding what Oscar and his team have accomplished in such short time....private message me-I wouldn't mind sharing with you what I am working on...at the very least it will show you that I am no poser!

[jujuman]

if you really want to know how hard the shot was, look at benards legs and hip area as he throws the shot, they move in the direction of the punch first, this adds a trmendous amount of power behind the shot. Im sure you've all heard of punching from the legs, well thats a good example right there.