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    it would be very premature to talk about pbf-pac fight. pacquiao has a difficult assignmnent to do in cotto. but if you guys think mayweather has the draw, you don't know what you're talking.

    between pacquiao and mayweather, pacquiao has the draw. those who say otherwise are fooling themselves. look at pac-hatton and pbf-marquez. you don't have to be an expert in the box office to know the thing. pacquiao is the hottest commodity in boxing today and i agree with roach in that. ask the mexicans, or the americans, and they will tell you it's pac.

    if pac wins over cotto, he will retire as the greatest fighter of all time, surpassing my idol muhammad ali. if pac wins, he need not fight mayweather, but mayweather will. the burden is for pbf to prove otherwise.

    it would be moronic for floyd and his handlers to demand 50-50 split.

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      Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya View Post
      it would be very premature to talk about pbf-pac fight. pacquiao has a difficult assignmnent to do in cotto. but if you guys think mayweather has the draw, you don't know what you're talking.

      between pacquiao and mayweather, pacquiao has the draw. those who say otherwise are fooling themselves. look at pac-hatton and pbf-marquez. you don't have to be an expert in the box office to know the thing. pacquiao is the hottest commodity in boxing today and i agree with roach in that. ask the mexicans, or the americans, and they will tell you it's pac.

      if pac wins over cotto, he will retire as the greatest fighter of all time, surpassing my idol muhammad ali. if pac wins, he need not fight mayweather, but mayweather will. the burden is for pbf to prove otherwise.

      it would be moronic for floyd and his handlers to demand 50-50 split.
      Dude you can't possibly be serious. Look at the PPV buys for Mayweather vs their 3 like opponents. The numbers have yet to be officially released for Myaweather Marquez, but it's estimated to be around 800k. Pac vs Marquez only did 400k. So why did the mexican fans decide to come see Floyd vs Marquez and not Pac vs Marquez. And for you to say something as idiotic as if mr. i won't fight you at your wieght would be a greater fighter than Ali if he beats Cotto, then you know nothing about boxing. and you need to delete your damn account.

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        Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya View Post
        it would be very premature to talk about pbf-pac fight. pacquiao has a difficult assignmnent to do in cotto. but if you guys think mayweather has the draw, you don't know what you're talking.

        between pacquiao and mayweather, pacquiao has the draw. those who say otherwise are fooling themselves. look at pac-hatton and pbf-marquez. you don't have to be an expert in the box office to know the thing. pacquiao is the hottest commodity in boxing today and i agree with roach in that. ask the mexicans, or the americans, and they will tell you it's pac.

        if pac wins over cotto, he will retire as the greatest fighter of all time, surpassing my idol muhammad ali. if pac wins, he need not fight mayweather, but mayweather will. the burden is for pbf to prove otherwise.

        it would be moronic for floyd and his handlers to demand 50-50 split.
        That is just a silly comparison.

        Look at May/Hatton vs Pac/Hatton. Look at May/Oscar vs Paq/Oscar. Look at May/Marq vs Pac/Marq.

        Look at May/Baldo vs Pac/Solis. Look at May/Judah vs Pac/Diaz

        With all due respect, your post is pretty......moronic.

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          Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya View Post
          it would be very premature to talk about pbf-pac fight. pacquiao has a difficult assignmnent to do in cotto. but if you guys think mayweather has the draw, you don't know what you're talking.

          between pacquiao and mayweather, pacquiao has the draw. those who say otherwise are fooling themselves. look at pac-hatton and pbf-marquez. you don't have to be an expert in the box office to know the thing. pacquiao is the hottest commodity in boxing today and i agree with roach in that. ask the mexicans, or the americans, and they will tell you it's pac.

          if pac wins over cotto, he will retire as the greatest fighter of all time, surpassing my idol muhammad ali. if pac wins, he need not fight mayweather, but mayweather will. the burden is for pbf to prove otherwise.

          it would be moronic for floyd and his handlers to demand 50-50 split.
          Actually with Pac-Hatton, it was Hatton's fanbase that brought in the thousands of fans from the UK and ppv buys. But I do agree that the Pacman is a bigger draw than Floyd. But a good movie needs a good villain and that's where Mayweather makes his case. He's boxings darth vader if you will. Millions tuned into his fights with De La Hoya, Hatton and Marquez because fans of his opponents wanted to see him get beat. As long as that doesn't happen, Mayweather will be a draw just for being the guy fans want defeated.

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            Roach is wrong here. Can Pacman truly ever be considered the P4P king as long as PBF is around? I don't think so.

            So who REALLY needs who?

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              Originally posted by Equinox View Post
              floyd is the one that doesent need you, he can easily set up a big money fight with shane mosley.




              Really? Well, according to Floyd, Mosley isn't a draw... because he has losses on his record.



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                hahaha...Freddie Roach is a piece of ****! he's only saying that because that's a good way of getting out of the fight. He knows Mayweather will destroy is little fighter. I hope that fight takes place because I want to see freddie back up his talk. Why don't they have a winner gets 60% and the loser gets 40%.

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                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post




                  Really? Well, according to Floyd, Mosley isn't a draw... because he has losses on his record.
                  Still.. Roach can talk **** all he wants but Floyd does not "need" Pac, Floyd vs Mosley, Cotto, hell even Margaritto is huge money. Floyd allways disses his opponents tho, Mosley has done well as the B side on a few occassions. It would be a big money fight probably not as much as Pac/Floyd, but does that mean Floyd NEEDS pac?

                  Thats straight up BS Roach is spewing he gonna be worse than Floyd sr at this rate..

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                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Floyd did not sell out against Ndou. There were thousands of fans there but it did not sell out the Van Andel Arena. Now with Hernandez I am not sure if the fight took place in the same arena? But, I don't remember being a sell out. I remember seeing empty seats. And, I don't remember them mentioning how many fans were in attendance? I gotta go back and look at the tapes. But, believe there were more fans in the Ndou bout than in the Hernandez bout.
                    Both of those fights were sold out!! people were outside in the cold listening to the speakers.

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                      PAC vs. PBF would be the fight of the decade

                      but we'll see if PAC performs well with Cotto. Pac is not a natural WW we see on that thing.

                      In my opinion PAC doesn't need PBF.

                      PBF maybe needs PAC... just wondering why he just came out from the retirement and a day before Pac-Hatton fight?

                      neither he goes to the LW champion who never had experience in JR. WW
                      division like Marquez

                      Does he come back because of Mosley? or Paul Williams? Margarito? I dont think so.

                      Does PBF want a piece of Pacman? Yes because he's midget rather than fighting Williams,Mosley or Margarito and can make more money with Pacman than anyone else.

                      After Nov 14 Cotto-Pac fight...unless pulls an upset to Cotto if PBF-PAC won't happens well Pacquiao could concentrate to Politics I guess its 2010 for Presidential/Gubernatorial election in P.I. He said that earlier this year his running of Gubernatorial seat. nevertheless why he needs PBF? he could be a 7th division champion already with Cotto already established currently a 6th div champion. Its a money game.

                      The question is who really PBF wants in his comeback?

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