Comments Thread For: Tony Ayala Jr. - The Rise & Fall of El Torito

[Real talk]

Trash and doesn't deserve to be remembered. Looking at his record, it seems he was just a bum-bully anyway. More padded than Julio Cesar Chavez Sr's record, on second thoughts, not quite, but it's right up there with the rest of 'em. Nash out.

You’re a clown you want to talk about padded boxers you don’t have to go any further than any white boxer out there, Loma, Caleb, Josh, fake jake & the yellow belly list goes on.. and believe me there is a lot of white trash out there, to be worrying about MexICANS.. so clean yourself up Snatch..

[Cobra Curry]

Big up to Rich the Fight Historian, excellent channel full of great videos.

[HandsofIron]

Probably the number 1, most wasted talent in the entire history of the sport.

[edgarg]

I saw all his fights -except his last- including Yory Boy and the one before the last. He was a klller, and the commentators were all excited about him. I knew nothinge about him but what I heard from the coms and that included his imprisonment. I thought he's have no chance after 15 years out of touch but he certainly surprised me. Seemed unconquerable. Top quality wasted talent, who deserved what he got but should have been in a sanitorium, maybe injected with anti-*** vaccines. Then ALL his attention would have turned to boxing. He was very articulate I recall, surprisingly so, more than any other fighter. And sounded very literate..

[ShoulderRoll]

He was ******ed as a child. That's the kind of thing that can screw a person up for life.

[PBR Streetgang]

Ayala Jr's first run was a bit early for my days following the sport but I remember his comeback tour. As I recall, alot of those fights were on ESPN and they hyped up the redemption angle. He went on a run fighting subpar opposition and then faced reality against Yory Boy. I don't recall the fight much but I do remember Ayala quitting in his corner. I think ESPN would have stuck with his comeback had he not had another break-in of a woman's residence. Looking at his BoxRec, didn't realize he lost to Anthony "The Bullet" Bonsante of The Contender fame....

[The D3vil]

Well yeah, of course we won't learn anything from the story of a guy like Ayala because in America, we're more caught up in revenge and prosecution than healing and rehabilitation.

A kid like this should've been getting mental and psychological help he needed at 12, 13 years old.

Whereas, in America, we do 1 of 2 things.

1. overlook & enable his indiscretions because he's talented

or

2. Label him a monster and just lock him up forever

Neither actually solves the problem, which is why we have so many criminals in spite of having more people locked up than every other country.

[richardt]

You’re a clown you want to talk about padded boxers you don’t have to go any further than any white boxer out there, Loma, Caleb, Josh, fake jake & the yellow belly list goes on.. and believe me there is a lot of white trash out there, to be worrying about MexICANS.. so clean yourself up Snatch..

You are nothing but a racist FK with the IQ of a dead frog.