MMA fighters can't fight and that sport won't last much longer.

[TMLT87]

Garcia v Thurman did 5 Million on regualar tv recently name one MMA card that has done those numbers and that's in the US

It peaked at 5.1m and averaged 3.74. Cain/JDS 1 on Fox averaged 5.7m and peaked at 8.8m. Fedor/Rogers in Strikeforce peaked at 5.4m, EliteXC with Kimbo/Thompson peaked at 6.5m.

Lol @ these mythical tales of Chinese boxers who are bigger than the entire UFC yet nobody has a ****ing clue who they are outside of China. Yeah bro theres this guy in ****ing Burundi whos a bigger draw than Conor too.

[nubianpiye]

It peaked at 5.1m and averaged 3.74. Cain/JDS 1 on Fox averaged 5.7m and peaked at 8.8m. Fedor/Rogers in Strikeforce peaked at 5.4m, EliteXC with Kimbo/Thompson peaked at 6.5m.

Lol @ these mythical tales of Chinese boxers who are bigger than the entire UFC yet nobody has a ****ing clue who they are outside of China. Yeah bro theres this guy in ****ing Burundi whos a bigger draw than Conor too.

Mythical tale when the numbers are out there for anyone to see? I provided a link for you Dummy this cherry-picking of information to suit your narrative just highlights how flawed the entire point is.

like I said you can combine every UFC fight Zou shimming surpassed that lol

[TMLT87]

Mythical tale when the numbers are out there for anyone to see? I provided a link for you Dummy this cherry-picking of information to suit your narrative just highlights how flawed the entire point is.

like I said you can combine every UFC fight Zou shimming surpassed that lol

Well **** that settles it then. Boxing is bigger because of Zou Shimming, whoever the **** he is.

[TMLT87]

Being a jack of all trades MAKES one a master in MMA.

Exactly. When you combine it all together and adapt it to the MMA context it becomes its own thing. You look at guys like prime GSP, Jones, Fedor etc not the best pure boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers or BJJ guys but as long as they are allowed to use their full skillset who from any other combat sport can beat them?

Pure boxers can outbox them but cant deal with kicks and wrestling. Kickboxers win the stand up but still cant deal with the wrestling. Wrestlers can deal with the wrestling but not the stand up, and if they take the fight to the ground they're not used to submissions and ground strikes. BJJ guys have the grappling bases covered but no stand up plus the ground strikes + no gi with blood and sweat changes the ground game a fair bit.

[sicko]

MMA not going away BUT yeah most of those guys Boxing Sucks that is just the truth

That being said, a lot of these guys don't even train for boxing until much later in life when they try to transition from like Wrestling, Judo, Karate or whatever to MMA then they start working on their Boxing. Put a Boxer in a Octagon and the Boxer would look just as bad when the MMA guy shoots for a take down and choke them out within seconds.

The good thing is that Boxing Pays VERY WELL and MMA doesn't so Boxers don't have to step into a Octagon for a Career high Payday unlike the MMA guys who are jumping in a Boxing ring only because MMA don't pay sh^t

[nubianpiye]

Exactly. When you combine it all together and adapt it to the MMA context it becomes its own thing. You look at guys like prime GSP, Jones, Fedor etc not the best pure boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers or BJJ guys but as long as they are allowed to use their full skillset who from any other combat sport can beat them?

Pure boxers can outbox them but cant deal with kicks and wrestling. Kickboxers win the stand up but still cant deal with the wrestling. Wrestlers can deal with the wrestling but not the stand up, and if they take the fight to the ground they're not used to submissions and ground strikes. BJJ guys have the grappling bases covered but no stand up plus the ground strikes + no gi with blood and sweat changes the ground game a fair bit.

Because of its regional success that far surpasses UFC in every way Canelo has done 30 plus million in Mexico Pac has done 90 mill views in the Philippines MMA will never accomplish nor attain this.

[TMLT87]

Because of its regional success that far surpasses UFC in every way Canelo has done 30 plus million in Mexico Pac has done 90 mill views in the Philippines MMA will never accomplish nor attain this.

MMA will just continue to do far better actual measurable full price PPV numbers, better social media numbers, better Youtube views etc while you cling to stories of some random dude nobody has heard of allegedly getting a billion viewers for a fight in some distant third world country where the numbers could never be accurately measured.

[TMLT87]

MMA/UFC have been coming up with fight cards every week without fail even during the height of the pandemic. Talk about the sport not lasting much longer. Are you ****** or what?

Its blind bias. Most of these anti-MMA boxing heads would become fans if they watched it unbiased and bothered to learn the nuances of it. Its a ruleset that encourages crazy ****ing fights with spectacular finishes, upsets etc etc, and the UFC is a behemoth of a promotion that gets **** done and puts out a slickly produced product with big fights made on a regular basis. But some boxing fans just feel so threatened and resentful about MMAs growth (most of them called it a passing trend 15 years ago when it first started booming) that instead of just enjoying having two major combat sports to watch they have to come up with the dumbest ****ing reasons to **** on it.

[nubianpiye]

MMA will just continue to do far better actual measurable full price PPV numbers, better social media numbers, better Youtube views etc while you cling to stories of some random dude nobody has heard of allegedly getting a billion viewers for a fight in some distant third world country where the numbers could never be accurately measured.

But it doesn't do better ppv's the younger audited explains the YouTube views nothing else and most real boxing fans have heard of shimming you haven't but you don't know **** about the sport of boxing you dumb ****

[rickJen]

MMA/UFC have been coming up with fight cards every week without fail even during the height of the pandemic. Talk about the sport not lasting much longer. Are you ****** or what?

MMA-UFC fans are happy. They get to see what they want to see.
Boxing fans are left waiting waiting waiting for meaningful fights to come.
Fighters on top just ignore each other.