MMA fighters can't fight and that sport won't last much longer.

[miniq]

MMA talent pool is tiny

They have so many hypejobs

So many old men

Paid garbage

This is why they are doing boxing freakshow fights $$$

[nubianpiye]

So let me get this straight, you dont believe the UFC has grown since 1993?

The UFC has platued and is not growing any more the UFC owner had started zuffa boxing because he knows that is where the real money is. His marketing campaign that UFC is taking over boxing is dead it died when he started declaring he was moving across to the sport of boxing from the joke that is human tough man contests the man that is being hyped as some monster is 6'4 and would get smashed by a number of top heavyweight boxers in boxing or in that Street fighting none sport you love. He wouldn't last a minute against 6'9 fury or 6'7 wilder or 6'6.5 Joshua or 6'4.5 Whyte. Comparing a story like boxing with huge global reach to a non sport piece of **** like MMA is a joke

[GhostofDempsey]

They are two different disciplines. How do you think a Mayweather/McGregor fight would have played out if it were in the octagon under MMA rules? Floyd doesn’t last a round.

Prior to MMA the argument was who would win between a boxer and a wrestler, those arguments never resolved anything either. Boxing is a more refined sport, the best boxers will have longer careers than the best MMA fighters.

[nubianpiye]

They are two different disciplines. How do you think a Mayweather/McGregor fight would have played out if it were in the octagon under MMA rules? Floyd doesn’t last a round.

Prior to MMA the argument was who would win between a boxer and a wrestler, those arguments never resolved anything either. Boxing is a more refined sport, the best boxers will have longer careers than the best MMA fighters.

Floyd still sparks the dummy Connor boxing or MMA they are fairly **** tbh

[nubianpiye]

So let me get this straight, you dont believe the UFC has grown since 1993?

Jake Paul stops Connor McGregor that's how **** UFC fighters are at stand up

[TMLT87]

The UFC has platued and is not growing any more the UFC owner had started zuffa boxing because he knows that is where the real money is. His marketing campaign that UFC is taking over boxing is dead it died when he started declaring he was moving across to the sport of boxing from the joke that is human tough man contests the man that is being hyped as some monster is 6'4 and would get smashed by a number of top heavyweight boxers in boxing or in that Street fighting none sport you love. He wouldn't last a minute against 6'9 fury or 6'7 wilder or 6'6.5 Joshua or 6'4.5 Whyte. Comparing a story like boxing with huge global reach to a non sport piece of **** like MMA is a joke

20 years ago the UFC was literally 5 events per year, they did 10 events in a year the first time in 2005, they now do 40+ a year. There were more UFC events outside of America in 2019 than in the entirety of the 90s and 00s combined. The first time they broke 500k on PPV is 2006, from 2010 to now they've done it 50+ times with 15 of those breaking a million. Back in the 00s they were on Spike TV and mainstream media wouldnt even cover it unless it was a hit piece. Now the UFC is on ESPN, Bellator is on the BBC, all media covers it. The talent pool today is probably five times as big as it was 20 years ago and much more global, EA dropped the Fight Night games and now makes UFC games to go with their NFL, NBA, NHL and FIFA, most of the biggest fights each year are MMA fights, most of the biggest combat sports stars are MMA fighters, the UFC is by far the biggest single combat sports promotion in the world. You have to have you head in the sand to not see this.

As for the toughman thing, you realize there are olympic medallists in MMA right? and BJJ black belts and div 1 wrestlers are the norm. Thats some toughman contest.


I honestly cant tell if you're trolling, drunk or ******ed.

[TMLT87]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying in your post. But this part is inaccurate. I don't know what you've trained but if you have BJJ experience you'd agree that a black belt can submit a white belt in 9 seconds if they want to. I'm guessing a judo black belt could throw an inexperienced opponent in 9 seconds, a wrestler could take one down in 9 seconds etc. What we saw is the boxing version of that. Mercer spent decades practicing how to KO somebody when they leave the slightest opening, Sylvia presented him with a wide open target straight away. I'm not saying that would happen in most boxer vs MMA fights, but it wasn't in any way lucky.

Fair point, "lucky" isnt the best word, but lets put it this way, he would struggle to recreate that result if they fought multiple times. Tim is a big clumsy slow mother****er who always had trouble with motivation, and he got caught. It absolutely can happen. As a general rule the way I look at it is a boxer in MMA loses quickly and easily 9 times out of 10 and the other time they land something quickly. MMA fighter in boxing loses 10 times out of 10 but doesnt look as bad in losing.

Also, in his previous fight Sylvia was submitted, saying he was stopped in 36 seconds is a bit misleading no? Reality is he had never been 'stopped' by anything other than submissions prior to facing Mercer.

Technically it was the choke that ended it, but being blitzed and dropped with punches did 90% of the job.

But to try give you a POV on why some boxing fans are critical of MMA, it's that the standard of striking in MMA gets overrated.

How does this work when boxing doesnt even allow the majority of the striking game thats in MMA?

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Isnt that striking? where have you seen that done better in boxing?

[nubianpiye]

20 years ago the UFC was literally 5 events per year, they did 10 events in a year the first time in 2005, they now do 40+ a year. There were more UFC events outside of America in 2019 than in the entirety of the 90s and 00s combined. The first time they broke 500k on PPV is 2006, from 2010 to now they've done it 50+ times with 15 of those breaking a million. Back in the 00s they were on Spike TV and mainstream media wouldnt even cover it unless it was a hit piece. Now the UFC is on ESPN, Bellator is on the BBC, all media covers it. The talent pool today is probably five times as big as it was 20 years ago and much more global, EA dropped the Fight Night games and now makes UFC games to go with their NFL, NBA, NHL and FIFA, most of the biggest fights each year are MMA fights, most of the biggest combat sports stars are MMA fighters, the UFC is by far the biggest single combat sports promotion in the world. You have to have you head in the sand to not see this.

As for the toughman thing, you realize there are olympic medallists in MMA right? and BJJ black belts and div 1 wrestlers are the norm. Thats some toughman contest.


I honestly cant tell if you're trolling, drunk or ******ed.

You dumb **** fight night did very well they stopped making it because on boxing you need to get license permission from each fighter individually in UFC you just speak to the organisation every other sport you speak to over governing body to get rights. MMA is **** its popularity had declined 95% of is fan base is wwe fans the attitude like a **** like you coming to this forum to troll when his **** sport is on the ropes just highlights what a **** show it is every time one of your MMA fighters gets sparked when they come out there sport just highlights how **** out is

[TMLT87]

You dumb **** fight night did very well they stopped making it because on boxing you need to get license permission from each fighter individually in UFC you just speak to the organisation every other sport you speak to over governing body to get rights. MMA is **** its popularity had declined 95% of is fan base is wwe fans the attitude like a **** like you coming to this forum to troll when his **** sport is on the ropes just highlights what a **** show it is every time one of your MMA fighters gets sparked when they come out there sport just highlights how **** out is

Fact remains, EA the biggest sports game maker makes UFC games now, you realize they initially refused to make an MMA game in the 00s right? not sure how the UFCspopularity has declined "95%" when this is possibly their strongest opening quarter of a year ever in terms of PPV buys. I'm also not sure how MMA is on the ropes considering it generally does better numbers than boxing and it does them with actual MMA fighters instead of the UFC hosting Youtubers vs boxers and other freakshow **** to generate attention.

The guy that made a thread called "MMA fighters can't fight and that sport won't last much longer" accusing me of a being a troll. Thats a bit ****ing rich.

[nubianpiye]

Fact remains, EA the biggest sports game maker makes UFC games now, you realize they initially refused to make an MMA game in the 00s right? not sure how the UFCspopularity has declined "95%" when this is possibly their strongest opening quarter of a year ever in terms of PPV buys. I'm also not sure how MMA is on the ropes considering it generally does better numbers than boxing and it does them with actual MMA fighters instead of the UFC hosting Youtubers vs boxers and other freakshow **** to generate attention.

The guy that made a thread called "MMA fighters can't fight and that sport won't last much longer" accusing me of a being a troll. Thats a bit ****ing rich.

You came to a boxing forum and made a post talking about how boxing is dying despite doing it's best ever ppv's in the last five years and it's highest ever viewership numbers in China to talk up your **** sport that's watched by a couple of redneck ****s in America and you don't think that was trolling? But the end of that thread you admitted that boxing is much bigger globally but argued MMA is growing so even you didn't agree with your own statement what is that if not trolling?