MMA fighters can't fight and that sport won't last much longer.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I cant believe i'm having to repeatedly explain to you why Dillian Whyte getting an off the bat UFC title shot is ****ing insane lol.

I'm guessing the main reason you want it is because you think the stylistic match up would give the boxer a better chance at winning than usual, and the MMA fanboys would never live it down if he actually won a UFC title..right?

Mixed Martial Arts fighters ether pick on fighters who are not in their weight class or boxers who have basically retired.

Dilllian Whyte has multi-dimensional combat experience, a is a top current heavyweight boxer.

It is a big fight, and a meaningful fight.

Why are you speaking as if the UFC title is some sort of prestigious title? It is not really.

There is pretty much nobody in the UFC Heavyweight division besides Ngannou, otherwise I would know about them.

It is a big fight, that can be made easily.

Dana White is all about making good fights 'Whyte vs Ngannou is a great fight'.

[deathofaclown]

You are being subjective, you have a issue with Whyte because he has beef with Tyson Fury.

Whether you like it or not Dillian Whyte is one of the top heavyweights in the game, he has multi-dimensional combat experience and wants to fight Ngannou.

This is first in boxing and Mixed Martial Arts.

Most if not all boxing fans around the world will tune in to watch the match up, and all of the Mixed Martial Arts fans will also be watching.

It is a big fight, the second biggest heavyweight fight the UFC can make outside of Jones vs Ngannou.

You need to stop being subjective mate.

Dillian Whyte is ranked in the top 6-7 heavyweights world wide.

when did I say it wouldn’t be a big fight?

I said it would bring another demographic, id like to see it too.

my point is would it bring in the same money as a bigger name in boxing ? No.

Would it do far bigger numbers than Ngannou v another UFC fighter? Maybe but that much? Who knows.

For the risk involved for UFC, I’d imagine they would prefer an even bigger name with little or no experience in other combat sports in terms of someone waltzing into their business and getting a fight with one of their biggest stars.

All I was saying was I’m sure they would take the likes of Fury or AJ in a heartbeat, there would be almost no chance of them winning . Whyte is a more risky proposition for less money.

[TMLT87]

Mixed Martial Arts fighters ether pick on fighters who are not in their weight class or boxers who have basically retired.

What are you talking about? the recent fights have all been MMA fighters going to boxing, or bare knuckle boxing. Lol @ MMA fighters "picking on" boxers by going to ****ing boxing to fight them.

Why are you speaking as if the UFC title is some sort of prestigious title? It is not really.

Ah yes but all the alphabet soup titles in boxing are.

There is pretty much nobody in the UFC Heavyweight division besides Ngannou, otherwise I would know about them.

Lewis and Stipe are bigger stars than Whyte.


Again, you just want a 2nd tier boxer (who in an MMA fight would really be a kickboxer with prior MMA experience) who isnt even a champion in boxing to walk into a UFC title shot opportunistically against a guy who is basically a big puncher with takedown defence, the most one dimensional champion since Brock, except Brocks one dimension was wrestling. That way if Whyte lost you could be like "Whyte is **** anyway, its not AJ or Fury" but if he won you could use it to **** on MMA forever. I see what you're doing!!!!

[PRINCEKOOL]

when did I say it wouldn’t be a big fight?

I said it would bring another demographic, id like to see it too.

my point is would it bring in the same money as a bigger name in boxing ? No.

Would it do far bigger numbers than Ngannou v another UFC fighter? Maybe but that much? Who knows.

For the risk involved for UFC, I’d imagine they would prefer an even bigger name with little or no experience in other combat sports in terms of someone waltzing into their business and getting a fight with one of their biggest stars.

Anthony Joshua is in a two fight deal to face Tyson Fury, they have gone 'Forget about them'.

Which leaves Dillian Whyte, a boxer with multi-dimensional combat experience.

So? You are admitting what I said early in this thread.

The UFC are spooked, because for the first time in history? One of their guys is not picking on a boxer who is retired or weight classes below themselves 'Whyte also as I have said, has multi-dimensional combat experience'.

It is the first legitimate invasion into the UFC by a boxer at his peak 'Who wants to fight them on their terms'.

You have to admit the fight has appeal.

[PRINCEKOOL]

What are you talking about? the recent fights have all been MMA fighters going to boxing, or bare knuckle boxing. Lol @ MMA fighters "picking on" boxers by going to ****ing boxing to fight them.



Ah yes but all the alphabet soup titles in boxing are.



Lewis and Stipe are bigger stars than Whyte.


Again, you just want a 2nd tier boxer (who in an MMA fight would really be a kickboxer with prior MMA experience) who isnt even a champion in boxing to walk into a UFC title shot opportunistically against a guy who is basically a big puncher with takedown defence, the most one dimensional champion since Brock, except Brocks one dimension was wrestling. That way if Whyte lost you could be like "Whyte is **** anyway, its not AJ or Fury" but if he won you could use it to **** on MMA forever. I see what you're doing!!!!

Conor Mcgregor should of really been fighting middle weights, but instead he fought Mayweather who he out weighed by 20 pounds.

The guy who fought Malignaggi, Artem Lobov? Well Malignaggi again came out of retirement.

Mixed Martial Arts fighters typically don't fight fighters in their own weight class, or fighters at the peak of their careers.

Whyte vs Ngannou would be the first time it has ever happened.

[TMLT87]

Conor Mcgregor should of really been fighting middle weights, but instead he fought Mayweather who he out weighed by 20 pounds.

The guy who fought Malignaggi, Artem Lobov? Well Malignaggi again came out of retirement.

Mixed Martial Arts fighters typically don't fight fighters in their own weight class, or fighters at the peak of their careers.

Whyte vs Ngannou would be the first time it has ever happened.

Jesus....okay so Conor was bullying poor FLOYD ****ING MAYWEATHER by fighting him in a BOXING match. And 13-15 in MMA Artem Lobov was picking on Paulie by fighting him in a bare knuckle fight. Got it.

Like I said, you just want an uncharacteristically favourable stylistic match up for a "boxer" (who moved to boxing from kickboxing and MMA) to fight an MMA fighter who has basically never show anything other than boxing and takedown defence, in a literal ****ing UFC title fight. Obviously you and I both know that even if Whyte won that fight it wouldnt be particularly representative of how a boxer vs MMA fighter under MMA rules would usually go. And if Whyte actually had to earn the title shot by winning a few fights first he probably wouldnt be able to because he'd run into guys that would wrestle him.

Would it do far bigger numbers than Ngannou v another UFC fighter? Maybe but that much? Who knows.

It'd be bigger than a typical Ngannou fight but I think hes overestimating how much by. Ngannou is a 500k buys kinda guy, a fight with Whyte might bump it up to like 800k then if it was on PPV in the UK maybe another 200k at a ?0 price point. Good numbers but hardly so huge that the UFC would jump at it. If it was AJ or Fury instead it'd probably do closer to 2m American and another mil in the UK.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Jesus....okay so Conor was bullying poor FLOYD ****ING MAYWEATHER by fighting him in a BOXING match. And 13-15 in MMA Artem Lobov was picking on Paulie by fighting him in a bare knuckle fight. Got it.

Like I said, you just want an uncharacteristically favourable stylistic match up for a "boxer" (who moved to boxing from kickboxing and MMA) to fight an MMA fighter who has basically never show anything other than boxing and takedown defence, in a literal ****ing UFC title fight. Obviously you and I both know that even if Whyte won that fight it wouldnt be particularly representative of how a boxer vs MMA fighter under MMA rules would usually go. And if Whyte actually had to earn the title shot by winning a few fights first he probably wouldnt be able to because he'd run into guys that would wrestle him.



It'd be bigger than a typical Ngannou fight but I think hes overestimating how much by. Ngannou is a 500k buys kinda guy, a fight with Whyte might bump it up to like 800k then if it was on PPV in the UK maybe another 200k at a ?0 price point. Good numbers but hardly so huge that the UFC would jump at it. If it was AJ or Fury instead it'd probably do closer to 2m American and another mil in the UK.

Boxing is apart of mixed martial arts, and even still? Mixed Martial Arts fighters need some sort of advantage.

Conor Mcgregor should been fighting at 160 pounds and above.

[MONGOOSE66]

We saw an MMA guy with a record of 18-2 get blitzed inside of one round. MMA guys are generally really low level that's why Brock Lesnar could convert and dominate and why Jake paul was so able to easily destroy a MMA fighter with a good resume.

It's a joke sport.

Get in the ring with one and find out for yourself. Lol. U probably never been in a fight outside of a chat room.

[MONGOOSE66]

Lol l, you all must think that professional golf, phuking and professional basketball are the same cause a ball goes in a hole. Your all morons and obviously proud to share it with everyone.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Jesus....okay so Conor was bullying poor FLOYD ****ING MAYWEATHER by fighting him in a BOXING match. And 13-15 in MMA Artem Lobov was picking on Paulie by fighting him in a bare knuckle fight. Got it.

Like I said, you just want an uncharacteristically favourable stylistic match up for a "boxer" (who moved to boxing from kickboxing and MMA) to fight an MMA fighter who has basically never show anything other than boxing and takedown defence, in a literal ****ing UFC title fight. Obviously you and I both know that even if Whyte won that fight it wouldnt be particularly representative of how a boxer vs MMA fighter under MMA rules would usually go. And if Whyte actually had to earn the title shot by winning a few fights first he probably wouldnt be able to because he'd run into guys that would wrestle him.



It'd be bigger than a typical Ngannou fight but I think hes overestimating how much by. Ngannou is a 500k buys kinda guy, a fight with Whyte might bump it up to like 800k then if it was on PPV in the UK maybe another 200k at a ?0 price point. Good numbers but hardly so huge that the UFC would jump at it. If it was AJ or Fury instead it'd probably do closer to 2m American and another mil in the UK.

Are you a accountant or a combat sports fan? I don't care about the numbers, it is a big legitimate fight 'For the reasons that I have stated on this thread'.

If Dana White phoned you up tomorrow and asked you 'Hey man, do you want me to make Ngannou vs Dillian Whyte? you would say yes etc'

Boxing is a working class sport, but wow people around here have elitist mindsets 'Whyte vs Ngannou has major appeal' that is all there is to it.