MMA fighters can't fight and that sport won't last much longer.

[TMLT87]

I think Ngannou is spooked that Whyte would beat him.

It is the biggest fight for Ngannou outside of Jon Jones.

It is actually a less straightforward stylistic match up than MMA fighter vs boxer usually would be. Ngannou is very one dimensional for a champ in the modern era, his game is pretty much boxing with enough defensive wrestling to keep things standing, and Whyte was a decently high level kickboxer who dabbled in MMA before he went to boxing. So yes I agree..kind of. On the other hand I think Ngannou/Whyte in a boxing match would be a rare instance of the MMA fighter having a decent outside shot too.

But like I said, Whyte does not deserve to be getting UFC title shots. He doesnt bring anywhere near the reward (in PPV buys and prestige) that AJ or Fury do. Its like Canelo might entertain the idea of boxing Conor or Khabib but I dont think he'd pay much attention to Tony Ferguson.

[PRINCEKOOL]

It is actually a less straightforward stylistic match up than MMA fighter vs boxer usually would be. Ngannou is very one dimensional for a champ in the modern era, his game is pretty much boxing with enough defensive wrestling to keep things standing, and Whyte was a decently high level kickboxer who dabbled in MMA before he went to boxing. So yes I agree..kind of. On the other hand I think Ngannou/Whyte in a boxing match would be a rare instance of the MMA fighter having a decent outside shot too.

But like I said, Whyte does not deserve to be getting UFC title shots. He doesnt bring anywhere near the reward (in PPV buys and prestige) that AJ or Fury do. Its like Canelo might entertain the idea of boxing Conor or Khabib but I dont think he'd pay much attention to Tony Ferguson.

It is the second biggest fight that can be made for Ngannou outside of Jon Jones.

I have no idea who the other UFC heavyweights are, zero.

It is a big fight, and Whyte has stated that he wants it..

Who is Ngannou fighting next?

This will be the first time a boxer, pretty much near enough at his peak of his career 'With some multi-dimensional combat experience, wants to fight a UFC Champion'.

People don't want it to happen, because the media is trying to build Ngannou up as the UFC's version of Mike Tyson 'But in reality it looks like Whyte has spooked him'.

Dillian Whyte has spooked him.

Seems like Mixed Martial arts fighters can only pick on fighters who are weight classes below them, or pipe up to boxers with no multi-dimensional combat experience.

[b Murphington]

Say what you want about MMA/UFC, but their marketing plan is executed well.

Why do you think there is a huge interest and following with these circus fights with old stars coming back like Tyson and YouTube stars? Because boxing doesn’t have a huge fan base.

Boxing way of operating is harming the sport. We don’t get compelling and competitive fights often enough. I think it’s gotten better recently, but there are still a bunch of match ups that should’ve happened, that has not happened yet or happened too late. As a result, boxing has failed to capture a younger fan base. Boxing is trying to compete with UFC, so it’s putting on these Triller shows. UFC is still going to be here for a long time.

Now as far as UFC guys not being able to fight, well their striking in a boxing realm sucks. That’s just because a boxing style wouldn’t serve them well in the octagon because they need to defend against other things that boxers don’t need to worry about.

[TMLT87]

It is the second biggest fight that can be made for Ngannou outside of Jon Jones.

I have no idea who the other UFC heavyweights are, zero.

It is a big fight, and Whyte has stated that he wants it..

Who is Ngannou fighting next?

This will be the first time a boxer, pretty much near enough at his peak of his career 'With some multi-dimensional combat experience, wants to fight a UFC Champion'.

People don't want it to happen, because the media is trying to build Ngannou up as the UFC's version of Mike Tyson 'But in reality it looks like Whyte has spooked him'.

Again, bro, you're asking for a 2nd tier HW with no belt and limited star power outside of the UK to for some reason be able to walk into a UFC title shot. And using your "big fight" logic, you could justify these Paul brothers getting title shots whenever they feel like it too. Most of the UFC LW/WW top 10 would do better numbers boxing Canelo than BJS, Yildrim, Smith, Jacobs etc as well, doesnt mean they're entitled to ****ing title shots in boxing because of it.

if it was AJ or Fury? sure, they bring enough to the table.

If it was Ngannou vs Whyte in kickboxing ie a compromise? sure.

If Whyte came into the UFC and actually won a couple of fights first? sure.


I dont think Ngannou is being promoted as the UFCs version of Mike Tyson either. Hes black and he hits hard, thats pretty much where the comparisons end.

[Dakuwaqa]

Say what you want about MMA/UFC, but their marketing plan is executed well.

Why do you think there is a huge interest and following with these circus fights with old stars coming back like Tyson and YouTube stars? Because boxing doesn’t have a huge fan base.

Boxing way of operating is harming the sport. We don’t get compelling and competitive fights often enough. I think it’s gotten better recently, but there are still a bunch of match ups that should’ve happened, that has not happened yet or happened too late. As a result, boxing has failed to capture a younger fan base. Boxing is trying to compete with UFC, so it’s putting on these Triller shows. UFC is still going to be here for a long time.

Now as far as UFC guys not being able to fight, well their striking in a boxing realm sucks. That’s just because a boxing style wouldn’t serve them well in the octagon because they need to defend against other things that boxers don’t need to worry about.

UFC provides us with great cards every month. Competitive top level boxing matches are relatively rare and the undercards usually suck. Plus all the robberies, hometown cooking, referees who are paid to penalise a fighter for whatever they do in order to prevent him winning.

Boxing stinks with corruption. We’ve got Canelo fighting BJS in a few weeks and we all know Billy Joe will have to score and KO to get a draw. Complete bull****.

[muaythaidon1]

Thread starter has taken a couple of boxercise classes and thinks he's a boxer, how cute. Imagine starting troll threads on the internet, and obsessing about how **** MMA fighters are, to inflate your own ego because you've taken one or two boxercise classes and consider yourself a boxer. I know what you are Nubian, and more importantly you know it too.

[b Murphington]

UFC provides us with great cards every month. Competitive top level boxing matches are relatively rare and the undercards usually suck. Plus all the robberies, hometown cooking, referees who are paid to penalise a fighter for whatever they do in order to prevent him winning.

Boxing stinks with corruption. We’ve got Canelo fighting BJS in a few weeks and we all know Billy Joe will have to score and KO to get a draw. Complete bull****.

If boxing was run better, we wouldn’t be having the fu#king Triller sideshows we have now.

It’s a lot of money being pumped into it so we’ll see how long it lasts.

[deathofaclown]

Again, bro, you're asking for a 2nd tier HW with no belt and limited star power outside of the UK to for some reason be able to walk into a UFC title shot. And using your "big fight" logic, you could justify these Paul brothers getting title shots whenever they feel like it too. Most of the UFC LW/WW top 10 would do better numbers boxing Canelo than BJS, Yildrim, Smith, Jacobs etc as well, doesnt mean they're entitled to ****ing title shots in boxing because of it.

if it was AJ or Fury? sure, they bring enough to the table.

If it was Ngannou vs Whyte in kickboxing ie a compromise? sure.

If Whyte came into the UFC and actually won a couple of fights first? sure.


I dont think Ngannou is being promoted as the UFCs version of Mike Tyson either. Hes black and he hits hard, thats pretty much where the comparisons end.

True

of course if Whyte went into UFC and that fight, I think mostly all real boxing fans would tune in, if only for curiosity. So I guess it still brings another demographic to the table somewhat.

but really, how much does he bring to the table? He’s not massively known outside of the UK when it comes to casual sports fans or maybe USA fans, so maybe they don’t feel it’s worth it

Especially when you consider he has a decent level of experience in kickboxing. I think UFC would think it’s more of a risk than just a straight boxer coming in and fighting their champ straight off the bat. And in that case, I think they would only entertain a genuine boxing star, At least the rewards would be huge.

it wouldnt be a good look if a second tier boxer who is a very competent kick-boxer landed one on their champ. They would want huge money generated for that to take place and Whyte doesn’t bring that.

[PRINCEKOOL]

True

of course if Whyte went into UFC and that fight, I think mostly all real boxing fans would tune in, if only for curiosity. So I guess it still brings another demographic to the table somewhat.

but really, how much does he bring to the table? He’s not massively known outside of the UK when it comes to casual sports fans or maybe USA fans, so maybe they don’t feel it’s worth it

Especially when you consider he has a decent level of experience in kickboxing. I think UFC would think it’s more of a risk than just a straight boxer coming in and fighting their champ straight off the bat. And in that case, I think they would only entertain a genuine boxing star, At least the rewards would be huge.

it wouldnt be a good look if a second tier boxer who is a very competent kick-boxer landed one on their champ. They would want huge money generated for that to take place and Whyte doesn’t bring that.

You are being subjective, you have a issue with Whyte because he has beef with Tyson Fury.

Whether you like it or not Dillian Whyte is one of the top heavyweights in the game, he has multi-dimensional combat experience and wants to fight Ngannou.

This is first in boxing and Mixed Martial Arts.

Most if not all boxing fans around the world will tune in to watch the match up, and all of the Mixed Martial Arts fans will also be watching.

It is a big fight, the second biggest heavyweight fight the UFC can make outside of Jones vs Ngannou.

You need to stop being subjective mate.

Dillian Whyte is ranked in the top 6-7 heavyweights world wide.

[TMLT87]

You are being subjective, you have a issue with Whyte because he has beef with Tyson Fury.

Whether you like it or not Dillian Whyte is one of the top heavyweights in the game, he has multi-dimensional combat experience and wants to fight Ngannou.

This is first in boxing and Mixed Martial Arts.

Most if not all boxing fans around the world will tune in to watch the match up, and all of the Mixed Martial Arts fans will also be watching.

It is a big fight, the second biggest heavyweight fight the UFC can make outside of Jones vs Ngannou.

You need to stop being subjective mate.

Dillian Whyte is ranked in the top 6-7 heavyweights world wide.

I cant believe i'm having to repeatedly explain to you why Dillian Whyte getting an off the bat UFC title shot is ****ing insane lol.

I'm guessing the main reason you want it is because you think the stylistic match up would give the boxer a better chance at winning than usual, and the MMA fanboys would never live it down if he actually won a UFC title..right?