Shane "THE JUICE MAN" Mosley Dont need Mayweather, He is the DRAW !!! ^__^

[Danny Gunz]

So how do you feel about Margarito getting suspended for cheating and he is rightfully doing his time...

But Mosley admitting to cheating and nothing happens to him?
no suspension?
no fine?
no nothing?

Do you feel Mosley should not be held accountable for cheating?

Yeah it sucks he wasnt punished for cheating but thats just the way it is... like i said earlier he moved on and hes fighting, if he gets caught again recently using steroids it is a whole different story. Right now i have no reason to think he is still using them

[Horus]

Yeah it sucks he wasnt punished for cheating but thats just the way it is... like i said earlier he moved on and hes fighting, if he gets caught again recently using steroids it is a whole different story. Right now i have no reason to think he is still using them

You are way more forgiving then I am...
**** that, he wasnt even punish not one bit and now we suppose to treat him like some warrior on the same standard as fighters who has never took the coward way out and cheated...

Shane Mosley should not be put in the same sentence with fighters who never took steroids and try to cheat their way to the top.
in my opinion He cheated against fighters who did it the right way..who fought through injuries, through rest and hardwork.
Not steriods..

Shane Mosley is no warrior.
Shane Mosley is no true champion.
Shane Mosley is cheater who people choose not to hold him accountable for his actions...

If boxing doesnt punish him, we as the fans should. Just like we do to barry bonds.

In my opinion what Shane Mosley accomplish was based on the fact he had a unfair and illegal advantage over the other fighter which allow him to win.


Honestly, I just think Mosley is getting the benefit of the doubt and Margarito will never get.
And I think that, that is not fair.
And check my post history I am not a margarito fan.
but fair is fair. and how the boxing world is treating Margarito is not fair compare to how they are treating Mosley.

[Horus]

Horus Horus Horus. You seem to have an agenda against Mosley as of late. I wonder why that is? You have always been one to talk real talk, but then you do a 180 when it comes to Mosley.

This whole charade is because Shane called out Floyd. You had no issue with Shane a while back. In fact, here is a quote:



Funny I don't see any Juice Man comments. Your hate for Shane seems very new.

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In all honestly I was ready to moved on with the mosley steroid ****.
until somebody made a good argument to me about the double standard
between margarito and mosley...and how shane was never punish for his cheating....

and i notice I was low key playing favoritism. and I was wrong to hold margarito to one standard and mosley to no standards at all...

Man, all it was favoritism.
I was apart of the crowd who would **** on margarito till the sky turns ****ing orange .

and i admit I was wrong for not doing the same thing to mosley.

for not ****ing on mosley for the same exact thing, which is cheating.

I do not like double standards. i dont like them at all.
Just think About how different Oscar career would be if shane didnt used steroids against him.

And just because shane got caught once does not mean he wasnt doing it before.

It is very rare that a person gets caught their first time doing steroids.
People usually get caught when they have been doing steroids a long time and they want to try something better and when they do that they usually leave themselves open to being caught because they are dealing with people they never dealt with before.

• Tell me how did Mosley find out about Balco?
• Tell me what interested him in wanting to work with Balco?
• tell me when he put the clear on, what did he think the clear and cream was going to do for his body...?

the guy knew what he was doing

The guy is a cheater, and i think he cheated for most of his career

[Danny Gunz]

You are way more forgiving then I am...
**** that, he wasnt even punish not one bit and now we suppose to treat him like some warrior on the same standard as fighters who has never took the coward way out and cheated...

Shane Mosley should not be put in the same sentence with fighters who never took steroids and try to cheat their way to the top.
in my opinion He cheated against fighters who did it the right way..who fought through injuries, through rest and hardwork.
Not steriods..

Shane Mosley is no warrior.
Shane Mosley is no true champion.
Shane Mosley is cheater who people choose not to hold him accountable for his actions...

If boxing doesnt punish him, we as the fans should. Just like we do to barry bonds.

In my opinion what Shane Mosley accomplish was based on the fact he had a unfair and illegal advantage over the other fighter which allow him to win.


Honestly, I just think Mosley is getting the benefit of the doubt and Margarito will never get.
And I think that, that is not fair.
And check my post history I am not a margarito fan.
but fair is fair. and how the boxing world is treating Margarito is not fair compare to how they are treating Mosley.

You have to think of it logically though, because he is a fighter and he has always been fighting at a low weight class he never really would have been able to use steroids the same way. If he used them and he got stronger it really couldnt of been that much stronger because he only had 5-10 pounds to gain on an already muscular physique.

I know the fact of the matter is that he took steroids and that is wrong and still an unfair advantage, and i agree. But he could not of used steroids to the advantage as say a baseball or football player would

[Horus]

You have to think of it logically though, because he is a fighter and he has always been fighting at a low weight class he never really would have been able to use steroids the same way. If he used them and he got stronger it really couldnt of been that much stronger because he only had 5-10 pounds to gain on an already muscular physique.

I know the fact of the matter is that he took steroids and that is wrong and still an unfair advantage, and i agree. But he could not of used steroids to the advantage as say a baseball or football player would

I did think about it logically
And just because Shane got caught once does not mean he wasnt doing it before.

It is very rare that a person gets caught their first time doing steroids.
People usually get caught when they have been doing steroids a long time and they want to try something better and when they do that they usually leave themselves open to being caught because they are dealing with people they never dealt with before.

Tell me how did Mosley find out about Balco?
Tell me what interested him in wanting to work with Balco?
Tell me when he put the clear on, what did he think the clear and cream was going to do for his body...?


the guy knew what he was doing

The guy is a cheater, and i think it is very possible that he cheated for most of his career

[Danny Gunz]

I did think about it logically
And just because Shane got caught once does not mean he wasnt doing it before.

It is very rare that a person gets caught their first time doing steroids.
People usually get caught when they have been doing steroids a long time and they want to try something better and when they do that they usually leave themselves open to being caught because they are dealing with people they never dealt with before.

Tell me how did Mosley find out about Balco?
Tell me what interested him in wanting to work with Balco?
Tell me when he put the clear on, what did he think the clear and cream was going to do for his body...?


the guy knew what he was doing

The guy is a cheater, and i think it is very possible that he cheated for most of his career[/SIZE][/FONT]

Of course he knew what he was tkaing what professional athlete doesnt know what he is taking... Im just saying having to maintain weight in boxing makes steroids alot less effective because its all about gaining muscle weight.

[Horus]

Of course he knew what he was tkaing what professional athlete doesnt know what he is taking... Im just saying having to maintain weight in boxing makes steroids alot less effective because its all about gaining muscle weight.

So if you agree that Shane "THE JUICE MAN" Mosley knew he was taking something to give him an unfair advantage over a fighter who he knows wasnt doing the same thing...

How can we not call Mosley a coward for his actions?
How can you expect some fans not feel like he should be pounish for his actions?
How is it that it basically seem like it is ok for mosley to cheat and
people still put him in the same sentence with fighters who never cheated before.

How can Shane Mosley be considered a great fighter with the likes of Pacquiao, mayweather hopkins, de la hoya, etc..
when none of those fighter tryed to cheat their opponent by taking steroids..

like I said before,


cheating is the worst thing you can do in sports especially in the sport of boxing, where you have people putting their lives on the line.

just think about the fighters who had to fight mosley margarito and vargas while their was trying to cheat their way to the top.

what about them?

how much money do you think those lost since losing those fights to those cheaters...?

Sorry if i offend you guys, but i show no symphany for cheaters none.

if floyd was every found out to be taking steroids or loading gloves. that would be the last day i would be a fan of his. because what that would tell me is that, what floyd accomplish wasnt based on talent, skill, or smarts.
it tells me that if he cheated, that what floyd accomplish was based on the fact he had a unfair and illegal advantage over the other fighter which allow him to win.


so **** cheaters. imo period.

[Danny Gunz]

So if you agree that Shane "THE JUICE MAN" Mosley knew he was taking something to give him an unfair advantage over a fighter who he knows wasnt doing the same thing...

How can we not call Mosley a coward for his actions?
How can you expect some fans not feel like he should be pounish for his actions?
How is it that it basically seem like it is ok for mosley to cheat and
people still put him in the same sentence with fighters who never cheated before.

How can Shane Mosley be considered a great fighter with the likes of Pacquiao, mayweather hopkins, de la hoya, etc..
when none of those fighter tryed to cheat their opponent by taking steroids..

like I said before,


cheating is the worst thing you can do in sports especially in the sport of boxing, where you have people putting their lives on the line.

just think about the fighters who had to fight mosley margarito and vargas while their was trying to cheat their way to the top.

what about them?

how much money do you think those lost since losing those fights to those cheaters...?

Sorry if i offend you guys, but i show no symphany for cheaters none.

if floyd was every found out to be taking steroids or loading gloves. that would be the last day i would be a fan of his. because what that would tell me is that, what floyd accomplish wasnt based on talent, skill, or smarts.
it tells me that if he cheated, that what floyd accomplish was based on the fact he had a unfair and illegal advantage over the other fighter which allow him to win.


so **** cheaters. imo period.

He admitted to steroids in 2007 ok so erase everything from then back.. But now he is or should be clean and he has fought and gained his way back to the top. Who are we to say he cant fight on because of things he has done in the past, as long as he keeps passing the drug tests i say give respect where its due.

[Bhopreign]

He admitted to steroids in 2007 ok so erase everything from then back.. But now he is or should be clean and he has fought and gained his way back to the top. Who are we to say he cant fight on because of things he has done in the past, as long as he keeps passing the drug tests i say give respect where its due.

Do you realize lives could have been taken? This is boxing for crying out loud, they will suspend you for life in track and field and that isnt even a contact sport.

[Horus]

He admitted to steroids in 2007 ok so erase everything from then back.. But now he is or should be clean and he has fought and gained his way back to the top. Who are we to say he cant fight on because of things he has done in the past, as long as he keeps passing the drug tests i say give respect where its due.

I wish it could be that simple.
Until Mosley got some kind of Punishment for his actions..
He gets no credit from me.

I can not hold double standards.
can not.

and if i am going to **** on Margarito, who at least got punish for his cheating..
I have to treat mosley the same way.