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    #41
    vic vs donaire is a mini mega, money, & legacy building event for both fighters. Too much incentive for both fighters & promoters not to do it. Typical BS posturing by the promoters.

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      #42
      Man, I'd really like to see elite fighters do away with long term contracts. Then, if both Vic and Nonito were itching to rumble, they would HIRE promoters who also want to make that one fight happen. None of this "I don't reward disloyalty" bull crap. Right now, promoters with drag like Arum and Shaw determine who fights who based largely on how match ups affect their revenue streams. There's room for a new breed of promoter who works FOR fighters rather than USE them as pawns to line his own pocket at the expense of boxing fans who don't get the best fights possible.

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        #43
        Originally posted by TheKillerBoxer View Post
        I don't like Arum or Gary Shaw, they are bad for boxing. It just seems these two are not willing to fight each other again because of the risk. They want to use their promoters as excuses why a rematch was not made.
        i believe that what you're saying is right but wrong at the same time. right in every sense just wrong on who's doing it, because the fighters will fight, that is not the questions, it's the promoters who stand to lose more if their fighter lost. the promoters are the ones who aren't letting the fight happen because they are the ones who want to make the most amount of money. so, to do that, they have their good fighters fight everyone else, and if you look at arums business plan as well as shaw's they both have unique match making to where they get a lot of wins and a lot of hype for their fighters, without putting them in there with real threats, until that is the only choice available and they've milked their guys for as much as they could/can. the only reason they fought in the first place, or to say, the match was made in the first place because of two things, donaires brother glenn had already fought darchinyan and darchinyan won, he wanted to go after the brother for his resume, and no one knew of donaire, no one thought of him as a threat, i know i didn't before they fought. when they fought i remember saying to myself that i would like to see him beat darchinyan but it was looking like man against boy, that was until i saw how donaire was handling himself in the first round.
        but ok, as i digress, the promoters are going to get as many wins and money out of their guy before they put them in against each other in a rematch. the only thing that can can help it to happen faster is if they would be in the same division and both have to fight for the undisputed title.

        the promoters are preventing it from happening, not the fighters.
        Last edited by deuce_drop; 04-19-2009, 05:08 PM.

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          #44
          I don't really think Arum means all this. I think he's more or less saying all this to take a shot at Shaw's ego in hopes that it may sway him to try and "prove him wrong". Then again, you could take it at face value and say Arum means everything he's saying. I like the first scenario better, although I still think Donaire wins in a rematch. I would like to see it though.

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            #45
            thats bs
            i mean nonito is gonna end up fighting a noboddy for a vacant title at superflyweight
            while vic is risking it all against an undefeated fighter in a bigger weight class
            yeah donaire defeated vic
            but vic got more balls

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              #46
              I don't like Bob Arum.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                If that were true, Arum wouldn't need to publicly pretend that no one wants to see the fight when that's obviously untrue. He'd call Vic out instead, and try to make the fight. But he won't call Vic out because he's scared Vic might agree to fight Donaire, and that's clearly the last thing Arum wants to happen.
                are you that serious here???..

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                  #48
                  the best move now is for donaire challenge WBO champ Jose Lopez at superFly-jr Bantam (115lbs) where vic is. vic and donaire will collide in the near future. there is nowhere they go they can't smell each other. then again, it's more up to shaw-vic to make the fyt. nonito will jump into the fry in a heartbeat!!

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jetgeomcx View Post
                    are you that serious here???..
                    Why else do you think Arum is saying he doesn't want the fight to happen?

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                      #50
                      seeing the last fight, vic will be thinking twice if not thrice if he will again face donaire

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