Did Paul Williams ever offer Cotto a fight?

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

Arum said that he would not work with Williams' people. That is the Bobfather's way of protecting his Puerto Rican Princess.

Bob knows. If Miguel quit against Margarito, imagine what Williams would do to him.

this guys talking bout princess but yet on his avatar he has the 2 *** cowboys from broke back mountain you ***ing fruit cake

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

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just chant WINKY WINKY WINKY!!

and maybe he will understand!!!!

exactly mostly the whole place was chanting winky winky they came to see him not williams

[joseph5620]

That's funny. Isn't Margarito an Arum fighter?

I'm still waiting for my answer.

Arum didn't want that fight either. Margarito was forced to fight Williams as his mandatory or he would have been stripped. They didn't fight because Arum wanted the fight. Don't even begin to get that twisted.

[mellow_mood]

not a straight offer!!

but i just bump.. some old thread. .where he was mentioning a possible fight between him and cotto

[joseph5620]

Maybe it's because nobody knew (or even still now knows) who Williams is. Think about it, even Cotto losing to Marg and Williams beating Marg, who's the more popular of the two right now? Williams was tryin to bag a big draw but nobody was seeing him. Whether you think it's fear or not it is up to you, but considering there were visibly empty seats at the Winky vs Williams fight, you tell me why Williams hasn't been able to secure any fights.

Because he's a threat. The "people don't know who he is " excuse has grown old and is mostly used by apologist for Cotto and Margarito. More people know and respect Paul Williams more than Alfonso Gomez or Michael Jennings but that didn't stop Cotto from fighting them. Find another excuse because the one you are using is dead.

[RL_GMA]

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Because he's a threat. The "people don't know who he is " excuse has grown old and is mostly used by apologist for Cotto and Margarito. More people know and respect Paul Williams more than Alfonso Gomez or Michael Jennings but that didn't stop Cotto from fighting them. Find another excuse because the one you are using is dead.

Ok how many people do you think showed up to see Paul Williams fight Winky Wright and were there to support Williams? The house was borderline empty and Winky's name is what sold that fight, don't get it twisted.

Plus the simple fact that Quintana went in there and beat Williams the way he did ****ed his chances at getting any immediate fights with any of the other big names. yea he came back and KO'd Quintana, but immediately after there were rumors of fights with Clottey and Margarito but then all of a sudden went up to 154 and 160 to fight because both those division lacked any star power and his team knew that was their chance for their guy to get the upper hand to make a name for himself.

Yea of course Williams is a tough fight, but *****s aint runnin from him, he proved he could be beaten, he just brings nothing to the table yet. He'll call anyone and everyone just to be heard (like 90% of Boxers today do anyway).

[Ray Ray]

Ok how many people do you think showed up to see Paul Williams fight Winky Wright and were there to support Williams? The house was borderline empty and Winky's name is what sold that fight, don't get it twisted.

Plus the simple fact that Quintana went in there and beat Williams the way he did ****ed his chances at getting any immediate fights with any of the other big names. yea he came back and KO'd Quintana, but immediately after there were rumors of fights with Clottey and Margarito but then all of a sudden went up to 154 and 160 to fight because both those division lacked any star power and his team knew that was their chance for their guy to get the upper hand to make a name for himself.

Yea of course Williams is a tough fight, but *****s aint runnin from him, he proved he could be beaten, he just brings nothing to the table yet. He'll call anyone and everyone just to be heard (like 90% of Boxers today do anyway).

So by your logic....Quintana, Gomez and Jennings are more popular than Williams

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

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Because he's a threat. The "people don't know who he is " excuse has grown old and is mostly used by apologist for Cotto and Margarito. More people know and respect Paul Williams more than Alfonso Gomez or Michael Jennings but that didn't stop Cotto from fighting them. Find another excuse because the one you are using is dead.

Dont be dumb when williams beat marg he said hell fight cotto and all this but cotto had a match already set with mosley then there were talks if cotto beat mosley and paul beat quintana cotto vs paul could happen. (you can check that out here on boxingscene read the articles from that time.) What happened? Cotto won Paul lost. THen he had to avenge his lost and cotto was goin to fight vs cintron or marg and they had everything filled and there wasnt 2 many fights that could happen then as paul wanted quintana again. So cotto fought Gomez. Then paul won and Cotto fought margarito. Cotto lost and was off for about 6-7 months. Hes not going to fight the most difficult fight he could take right when he comes off plus Williams vacated the belt. (Its easy really if your having a comeback fight and they tell u its for a title to get back in the mix you would take it 2 dummy) Now thats where we are now. Cottos going to fight another guy no one wanted to fight. HE DOESNT DUCK ANYONE

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=RL_GMA;5070942]Ok how many people do you think showed up to see Paul Williams fight Winky Wright and were there to support Williams? The house was borderline empty and Winky's name is what sold that fight, don't get it twisted.

Plus the simple fact that Quintana went in there and beat Williams the way he did ****ed his chances at getting any immediate fights with any of the other big names. yea he came back and KO'd Quintana, but immediately after there were rumors of fights with Clottey and Margarito but then all of a sudden went up to 154 and 160


Margarito and Arum turned down a rematch. Arum said he wouldn't dobusiness witrh Paul Williams or his team. Clottey is promoted by Arum. So how was that fight going to happen? You do the math and how is that the fault of Paul Williams? And the Quintana fight was years ago(that's getting old too) and last time I checked Williams kicked the **** out of Qunitana who hasn't ben heard from since. You need to come up with some new material to justify your excuses because your logic fails.


to fight because both those division lacked any star power and his team knew that was their chance for their guy to get the upper hand to make a name for himself.

Yea of course Williams is a tough fight, but *****s aint runnin from him, he proved he could be beaten, he just brings nothing to the table yet.

What did Gomez and Jennings bring to the table that Williams didn't other than that were much safer fights? Your bull**** exuses fail. Cotto didn't want any parts of Williams and he was more than willing to hide behind his bodyguard/promoter

[RL_GMA]

So by your logic....Quintana, Gomez and Jennings are more popular than Williams

At the time Quintana fought Cotto he was another undefeated WW on the come up and a lot of people picked Quintana to win because of his southpaw style and that he was a "legit" WW.

With Gomez and Jennings, nobody doubts both were tune up fights. Personally I would've liked to have seen Cotto fight someone else besides Jennings, but even by then Williams was out of the picture voluntarily.

It'll be funny though when Williams gets to a point where's he's a big name and takes tune up fights. I'm sure people will think he's scared of somebody LOL