Holding and hitting

[Steak]

whats your take on holding and hitting? refs seem to get worked up about it unnecessarily, imo. the illegal part about holding and hitting is the holding, not the hitting, and yet it seems that refs will jump all over a guy for holding and hitting and let someone else hold all night without warning.

personally, I think if two guys are tied up but are able to punch effectively, then the ref should just let it be and instead get more angry at a guy who simply clinches.

[Boogie Nights]

i have no problem with it

but a guy like hatton over does it, literally, it's really irritating listening how he compares his style to that of durans'

[brently1979]

I don't like the way Hatton does it. It is boring and not boxing imo.

[El Dominicano]

No problem with it at all, What I do hate is straight up running, what Joel was doing against Kirkland

[gingeralbino]

I kinda agree with your opinion on it, but what u need is consistancy from referees.
U have to fight to the rules of the referee on the night, so if u know he lets the fighters get on with it u can prepare for that, and u know if doesnt tolerate it all, u can prepare for that also.

In other words, make up your fu.cking mind Cortez!

[Steak]

I don't like the way Hatton does it. It is boring and not boxing imo.

thats because he does more holding than hitting. and little else, for that matter.

although you have to put some blame on his opponents too. some of his opponents clinch right back.

[Sam D. Menace]

what about when one guy catches another guys hand(which is usually his good hand) and starts slammin him with his right? the man that's holding can control the other guy and the other guy wont be able to punch back aswell if he is under a grapple

[Steak]

what about when one guy catches another guys hand(which is usually his good hand) and starts slammin him with his right? the man that's holding can control the other guy and the other guy wont be able to punch back aswell if he is under a grapple

thats pretty impossible to do if youre talking about the forearm, especially with gloves on.

If youre talking about using one hand to grab sort of over the arm and udner the armpit and hitting with the other one, Im fine with that too. Pernell Whitaker used to do it all the time on the inside, real effective. Theres ways to get out of that and fight back in that position, I think its part of boxing.

[Hudathan]

It's the combination of the two that makes it bad. Holding is a traditional part of defense and can be used sparingly. Holding and hitting takes the purpose out of boxing, anyone can do that and that's not what they fighters are paid to be good at.

[Steak]

It's the combination of the two that makes it bad. Holding is a traditional part of defense and can be used sparingly. Holding and hitting takes the purpose out of boxing, anyone can do that and that's not what they fighters are paid to be good at.

not everyone can hold and hit effectively. it takes a lot of skill to pull it off and still get leverage behind your punches with the other hand.

holding is the illegal part of holding and hitting, not the hitting part.