iron mike tyson vs Muhammad "The Greatest" Ali -- who will win

[pinkpanther]

What is the point of this thread?.......and yes it has been debated here before.

[realtim]

Yep this threads been here b4 and its only going to get one answer out of me Ali all the way. (Tyson fans reply) but what about tysons power. Ali has been in with some of the heaviest punchers in HW history. I dont have to name them do I.

[Cletus Funk]

I could see either winning it but I'd lean towards Tyson. Those who say he would shake off Tyson's power need to have another look at the Henry Cooper fight - Ali was gone, and if that had been Tyson instead of Cooper it would have been over.

[Great]

100-th time - Ali by UD.

[Heckler]

OMG this is ridculous. EVERYONE stop bringing up the henry cooper incident, it was a freak incident that rarely occured in Ali' career. Ali didn't often step into a left hook. It was the young relatively naive inexperienced 21 yr old Cassius Clay that fought cooper not the great Muhammad Ali that we look back at in awe. Now when comparing lets use Ali in his prime(1967) who had developed his skills and still retained his foot and hand speed. Ali withstood poundings from Foreman and frazier in 1974 - after he had lost alot of his hand and footspeed due to his ban from boxing. HE had a chin of steel that withstood punishment from frazier and forman, he would have no prob with tyson when he was in his prime. Infact i doubt he would have to withstand much punishement from tyson as the prime Ali with his exceptional footwork would have no problem keeping his distance against tyson who wasn't great at cutting off the ring. Ali with his superior ring smarts would find to many ways to adapt and neutralize Tyson. I believe its tysons mental weakness that would result in his demise againtst Ali, Ali would frustrate him as a result of his unorthodox style and taunting, this could result in tyson losing his cool and walking straight into Ali's counterpunches which did have the potential to knock tyson out. In conclusion due to tysons relative lack of stamina and ringsmarts its quite probable Ali would win by Unanimous descion, if not a KO.

[Cletus Funk]

OMG this is ridculous. EVERYONE stop bringing up the henry cooper incident, it was a freak incident that rarely occured in Ali' career. Ali didn't often step into a left hook. It was the young relatively naive inexperienced 21 yr old Cassius Clay that fought cooper not the great Muhammad Ali that we look back at in awe. Now when comparing lets use Ali in his prime(1967) who had developed his skills and still retained his foot and hand speed. Ali withstood poundings from Foreman and frazier in 1974 - after he had lost alot of his hand and footspeed due to his ban from boxing. HE had a chin of steel that withstood punishment from frazier and forman, he would have no prob with tyson when he was in his prime. Infact i doubt he would have to withstand much punishement from tyson as the prime Ali with his exceptional footwork would have no problem keeping his distance against tyson who wasn't great at cutting off the ring. Ali with his superior ring smarts would find to many ways to adapt and neutralize Tyson. I believe its tysons mental weakness that would result in his demise againtst Ali, Ali would frustrate him as a result of his unorthodox style and taunting, this could result in tyson losing his cool and walking straight into Ali's counterpunches which did have the potential to knock tyson out. In conclusion due to tysons relative lack of stamina and ringsmarts its quite probable Ali would win by Unanimous descion, if not a KO.

Who's everyone? You can tell yourself what you like about the Cooper incident...I don't care.

I agree it could go this way which is why i said I could see either guy winning.

Foreman didn't land many clean shots on Ali during their fight and Frazier didn't have the power of Tyson so that's a pretty weak argument.

Chill man, it's only my opinion

[jack_the_rippuh]

All through his career Ali was most vulnerable to a good jab and a left hook...I'm not saying Tyson has that great of a jab now, but in his prime it was something he used (if it would be effective against such a big reach and height advantage I dunno) but his left hook was his best punch, If Ali just tastes his power it will be all over..

[realtim]

Tyson is not the most powerful boxer that ever lived hes up there but Ali faced some of the hardest hitters in the History of the Division, Shavers, Fraizer, Foreman, Lyle, Liston alot of hard hitters.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Tyson is not the most powerful boxer that ever lived hes up there but Ali faced some of the hardest hitters in the History of the Division, Shavers, Fraizer, Foreman, Lyle, Liston alot of hard hitters.

Tyson would be the fastest hard hitter he faced...

[lendermonster]

Prove me wrong Ali fans...

I think you guys are fooling yourselves with the "nostalgia factor" and assume old school is tougher than new school. Remember, we are talking about both fighters IN THEIR PRIME - you are looking at Tyson's later blounders and trying to lessen his early dominance. Remember, Ali got his jaw broken by Ken Norton!?! Listen Ali fans, who did Ali fight that would equate to Tyson in his prime? Foreman? Frazier? Well, turn it around and be honest - a 1986 Tyson versus Foreman or Frazier (in their prime)? You saw what Tyson did to Frazier's son... 30 seconds? You are idolizing Ali for a reason unknown to me - it would be no contest. A prime Tyson would KO Ali because you talk about imtimidation from Tyson? Who trash talked like no other?? Hello - Ali?? No, not intimidation - go back, boxing buffs, and look at the tapes, first Ali and then Tyson - PICK YOUR FIGHT - how fast are they in comparison to each other? If you are honest, you will realize that Tyson's speed would dictate the fight, just like it did every '80's fight Tyson was in and Tyson would pummel Ali. Now do your homework and prove me wrong...