COTTO Understand The CONSEQUENCES of Calling Out MAYWEATHER, that's why he WONT DO IT

[Horus]

Excellent post. I think your analysis is exactly right. I saw another post today pointing out that if Floyd and Cotto do fight, and if Floyd wins, then and only then will he gain respect from his detractors, and I think that will turn out to be true. Cotto has taken on an almost talismanic role as "the man who can and will beat Floyd" and I think that when/ if Floyd beats him (which I fully expect) it will be hard for anybody to do anything other than acclaim Floyd as the best boxer in the world. At least that what should happen....

To those people who refuse to read this thread, come on. OK, Horus posts about Floyd a lot but he always backs it up with intelligent, thoughtful reasoning. If you think its too long, well...any well constructed argument is always going to be longer than a few lines of type. This is a boxing forum and we do come here to read arguments and opinions about boxing don't we?

They just used that i am not reading that long **** argument, because they don't want to recognize a legitimate point into the flaws of Cotto

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

Horus understands the consequences of answering questions asked in his last thread, so he abandons it and tries a new approach.

[Scott9945]

I really dont care....Just wanted to my this point before i go work out..

That sure was a lot of hot air Horace.

[abadger]

They just used that i am not reading that long **** argument, because they don't want to recognize a legitimate point into the flaws of Cotto

You're probably right. For me its not even so much that Cotto is flawed, but just that essentially no-one has ever found a solution to Floyd's speed/ defensive genius combination, and Cotto for all his good points, doesn't look to me like he will be able to either. I agree Cotto is nowhere near the "can do everything" boxer that some people make him out to be.

On another note, I see you have Hopkins over Calzaghe, and I have to say I do not agree with that one! I'd love to see a thread from you about that before the fight happens, if only because I would quite like to argue it with you.
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[Big_L]

do yall really think all cotto has to do is call him out and floyd will fight him? how well did that work for margarito? it's a waste of time for cotto. he's said that he wants to fight him but if he doesn't want the fight he can't make him take it. thats all he needs to say.

[raabd]

You're probably right. For me its not even so much that Cotto is flawed, but just that essentially no-one has ever found a solution to Floyd's speed/ defensive genius combination, and Cotto for all his good points, doesn't look to me like he will be able to either. I agree Cotto is nowhere near the "can do everything" boxer that some people make him out to be.
On another note, I see you have Hopkins over Calzaghe, and I have to say I do not agree with that one! I'd love to see a thread from you about that before the fight happens, if only because I would quite like to argue it with you.

You are 100% correct, but there is only one way to find out. I don't understand how some people can defend not wanting floyd(welterweight champion) to fight cotto(#1 contender). Did anyone actually think the golden state warriors would beat the dallas mavericks in last years nba playoffs? No, but anything can happen. I think the #8 seed has only beaten the #1 seed once before in nba history(nuggets over the sonics in the early 90's). The point is to make the fight happen. It's great for boxing, the fighters will get paid and the fans will be satisfied.

[Pullcounter]

Cotto's doing the right thing by not calling Floyd out. Ignoring Floyd is what all of boxing should do... then maybe he'll want to box instead of do other stuff.

[Horus]

You're probably right. For me its not even so much that Cotto is flawed, but just that essentially no-one has ever found a solution to Floyd's speed/ defensive genius combination, and Cotto for all his good points, doesn't look to me like he will be able to either. I agree Cotto is nowhere near the "can do everything" boxer that some people make him out to be.

On another note, I see you have Hopkins over Calzaghe, and I have to say I do not agree with that one! I'd love to see a thread from you about that before the fight happens, if only because I would quite like to argue it with you.

I will make a Hopkins Calzaghe thread tonight...

But in a summary...


Hopkins and Calzaghe are at points in their career in which, their bodies dont wIN the majority of the fights nomore, it's thier minds that does the fighting...

Who has the most desire to win..?
Who been in tougher fights..?
What do you do when you hurt..?
How can you handle Fouls..?
How can you adapt to the other fighters gameplan..?
Who has the better trainer ..??
Who Has the most pressure put on him from the build up..?
Who will do anything to win..?
Which fighter has tasted desperate before...?

And all the answer to those questions is Hopkins...

I firmly believe this, and i dont see How Calzaghe will handle everything Hopkins will do to win..!!

This is not Wales, He is not at Home, He is not SAFE..!!

[abadger]

You are 100% correct, but there is only one way to find out. I don't understand how some people can defend not wanting floyd(welterweight champion) to fight cotto(#1 contender). Did anyone actually think the golden state warriors would beat the dallas mavericks in last years nba playoffs? No, but anything can happen. I think the #8 seed has only beaten the #1 seed once before in nba history(nuggets over the sonics in the early 90's). The point is to make the fight happen. It's great for boxing, the fighters will get paid and the fans will be satisfied.

Agreed. I think that as pretty much undisputed p4p #1, Floyd has earned the right to pick and choose his fights, but I do want to see him fight Cotto, and I'm pretty sure it will happen. I think the idea that Floyd is waiting for Cotto to get "bigger" is pretty much correct.

If you remember when he fought Hatton, that fight got made pretty quickly once Hatton had beaten the (admittedly shot) Castillo. I even think Floyd knows and intends to fight against any fighter who makes himself (to mainstream eyes particularly) a p4p contender. No doubt Cotto is the top welter contender, but IMO he need another big win to make the jump and attract Floyd.

All of Floyds swagger and personality is based around the premise that he is p4p #1 in the sport of boxing. As much as he pretends not to realise or care about this, I think that in reality he does.

Lets hope it happens in 2009.
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[abadger]

I will make a Hopkins Calzaghe thread tonight...

But in a summary...


Hopkins and Calzaghe are at points in their career in which, their bodies dont wIN the maojority of the fights nomore, it's thier minds that does the fighting...

Who has the most desire to win..?
Who been in tougher fights..?
What do you do when you hurt..?
How can you handle Intential Fouls..?
How can you adapt to the other fighters gameplan..?
Who has the better trainer ..??
Who Has the most pressure put on him from the build up..?
Who will do anything to win..?
Which fighter has tasted desperate before...?

And all the answer to those questions is Hopkins...

I firmly believe this, and i dont see How Calzaghe will handle everything Hopkins will do to win..!!

This is not Wales, He is not at Home, He is not SAFE..!!

Great. I am in the UK and I have to go to bed now. (Work in a few hours), but I'll look for it tomorrow when I'm slacking off.
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