Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[Spoon23]

It does not take a slo mo analysis to see that this fight was close. I will say this in the issue of fairness and objectivity considering that I like Mayweather and have never cared much for Pacman as a fighter.

The claim that this fight was close is subject to much derision. Well...Spoon and other posters went and looked for proof of the contention that Pacman won because it appears that to the status quo this claim was considered extraordinary.

With this being said why critisize people for showing proof that, in their estimation Pacman won? I applaud this effort.

To my way of thinking, judges often screw up decisions...I can see a scenerio where from a judges perspective, either man could have been called the winner. Both guys landed, pacman was the aggressor for much of the fight, Floyd landed many accurate blows in countering this aggression.

I just don't score fights. Watching this fight the sense I got was neither guy showed dominance over the other. I can live with that. I don't begrudge others for calling out the judges though, at the very least this could have instigated a rematch instead of claims that Floyd obviously won the fight. My two cents, worth 1.5 cents with inflation.

Thanks for appreciating my thread. This is mainly for rational people like yourself. It shows how perception of what transpired can be altered by bad judjing, lopsided score cards, and biased home court advantage. All an illusion to cover up the truth.

As you can clearly see was it was a close fight. There is a very good argument that can be made that Pac won since as evidence in this video shows, the disputed rounds that went to Floyd's way was actually rounds Pac outpointed him in punch connects. Plus the fact Pac landed the heavier blows.

Telling blows, more punches connected were all documented and shows if it weren't in Vegas, he could have clearly won it.

And Yes, bookies wasn't going to allow Floyd to lose that is crystal clear. It's rigged from the start. In this big fight. Vegas will make sure they win big too.

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"If I can just warn Manny to cancel the fight all of my pain can be prevented! May 2nd 2015 here I go!"

[Spoon23]

No substance? All of substance needed is that three respected, professional boxing judges came up with an easy UD for Floyd. Not a MD or SD but a UD.

How can you be that naive. Is this your first year watching boxing? Don't you know how bad judging is a common practice in boxing? How many fights have been rigged throughout history. You must be a child to think that judging is accurate especially in Vegas lol

Boxing is about who connects more through punching. That is boxing in it's purest form. Now try to dispute my video and say something logical next time. Since, the videos in this thread actually shows who really connected more throughout the fight. And the one who did connect more was the injured right shoulder guy wearing the yellow trunks, while the one retreating and backing up for most of the duration of the fight was the IV man who can't seem to get any significant shots in.

Hint: after the fight when Floyd was announced the winner. The boos of the MGM crowd can be heard around the world. That shows Floyd didn't deserve it since he fought to survive and as post analysis shows he didnt do enough to bag it.

I don't want a rematch since its clear already Pac won it.

But to not give Pac another shot since pac was actually robbed, shows Floyd is shook and knows he can't dance with a healthy 2 armed Pac. He can't get away with that lame running and hugging again lol

#robbed

[Spoon23]

Who won? the bookies did. No way Vegas could afford Floyd losing this fight thats for sure.

There is a story about some Arabs that came to Vegas back in the day...they still smelled like dung and the dessert and all the sharks licked their lips, welcoming these crude interlopers with free rooms in the best hotels. Those Arabs smiled a simple smile...rustic like, dessert like, as they lugged their suitcases filled with cash to buy chips.

As these Arabs sat down the fleecing began.... They would sit down at a roulette table and bet on one number, increasing the bet each loss by incredible amounts. The losses barely registered to these rich Arabs, they did not look distressed....and then one of them hit, and another one....soon the casino was wiped out and the Arabs asked politely to leave.

Moral of the story? VEGAS DOES NOT LIKE TO LOSE.

This fight shows how sports betting influence the score cards in Vegas.

The house wins every time. That's the nature of ********.

Very true.

[Rath]

Don't need slow mo, Floyd won in real time. Get the **** over it already

judges scorecards said red corner won slowmo or not, who was in the red corner?

[Spoon23]

judges scorecards said red corner won slowmo or not, who was in the red corner?

You mean Pac was in the red corner?

Really?

All they have to do was follow a script and they fuvked up on what corner won?

Jeez! Only in Vegas lol

[SOL27]

Boxing is about who connects more through punching. That is boxing in it's purest form.

Exactly the reason your video, and your entire vapid argument is a complete fallacy. You're no true scotsman fallacy is blatantly obvious here. Floyd won by boxing, but according to you, not boxing in it's "purest form", whatever the hell that means.

If you choose to wilfully ignore the other 3/4 of the criteria for winning a fight, then sure, Manny beats Floyd.

It's ridiculous that anybody could have Manny winning this fight. It's so ridiculous, that only a belief in a conspiracy theory would make sense. And that's exactly what you've presented. You've presented your own rules for scoring a fight, and then quietly tried to insert your unfounded claims of bias, corrupt judging, slanted bookies and a home turf advantage into your reasons of why Manny lost.

Ever heard of occam's razor? Essentially, the simplest answer is most often correct. In this case, Floyd outboxed Manny.

[Zaroku]

This fight shows how sports betting influence the score cards in Vegas.

The house wins every time. That's the nature of ********.

Very true.

Very true! Like when Bradley beat PAC the first time!! Or when PAC got two victories over Marquez.

This sword cuts both ways. Your bias is obvious, but the sword cuts both ways. You guys only want it to cut in the direction you want!

It is over! Your investigation is not going to happen. Your slow motion videos won't be reviewed.

In super slow motion PAC knocked himself out on Marquez' powerful right hand! Dec 8th, three years ago today! Manny was Mexicuted by a Mexican from Ciudad Mexico d.f. Buen Hecho!


Get over it

Occam's razor will cut away at excuses these guys cling to. Forget logic! These guys have rose colored (PAC God) lenses in everything related to PAC! Face down asx up, Marquez nearly killed PAC, even in slow motion.

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Exactly the reason your video, and your entire vapid argument is a complete fallacy. You're no true scotsman fallacy is blatantly obvious here. Floyd won by boxing, but according to you, not boxing in it's "purest form", whatever the hell that means.

If you choose to wilfully ignore the other 3/4 of the criteria for winning a fight, then sure, Manny beats Floyd.

It's ridiculous that anybody could have Manny winning this fight. It's so ridiculous, that only a belief in a conspiracy theory would make sense. And that's exactly what you've presented. You've presented your own rules for scoring a fight, and then quietly tried to insert your unfounded claims of bias, corrupt judging, slanted bookies and a home turf advantage into your reasons of why Manny lost.

Ever heard of occam's razor? Essentially, the simplest answer is most often correct. In this case, Floyd outboxed Manny.

Do you realize how many times I've try to tell these clowns about Occam's Razor? They don't get stuff like that, they're more focused on trying to fill up their veritable shopping carts with any stray idea no matter how ludicrous so that they can be twisted and stretched as a means of undoing the results of the fight. They could care-a-less about how complicated their version(s) of events become, they're putting in the work to try to skew reality.

They waited so long for their god to beat Mayweather but when he turned out to be a pumpkin instead of a blazing chariot they had to try to adjust reality to meet their failed expectations. Poor dumb ass ****s....

[Spoon23]

Exactly the reason your video, and your entire vapid argument is a complete fallacy. You're no true scotsman fallacy is blatantly obvious here. Floyd won by boxing, but according to you, not boxing in it's "purest form", whatever the hell that means.

If you choose to wilfully ignore the other 3/4 of the criteria for winning a fight, then sure, Manny beats Floyd.

It's ridiculous that anybody could have Manny winning this fight. It's so ridiculous, that only a belief in a conspiracy theory would make sense. And that's exactly what you've presented. You've presented your own rules for scoring a fight, and then quietly tried to insert your unfounded claims of bias, corrupt judging, slanted bookies and a home turf advantage into your reasons of why Manny lost.

Ever heard of occam's razor? Essentially, the simplest answer is most often correct. In this case, Floyd outboxed Manny.

Huh? Boxing is about connecting punches not to mention ring generalship etc.. But more so connected punches.

This video was done by a non biased boxing analyst who counted both punches of each guy. No editing or splicing just the hard truth.


Guess what, Pac won most of the rounds since he did land the most punches per round.

Plus the fact, Pac's punches had venom, and he did dish out the hurt in the hurt game that night.

#dispute it

# time stamp it

# flowmos squirming

# robbed