Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[ButtScratcher^^]

Good points. Those fights were all questionable and would have benefited if post fight review were in play.

We can also include Pac vs May in the list of questionable calls. as how this video has proven it. Accuracy in any sport is paramount. Especially a sport involves huge betting.

More accuracy should matter.

I don't think so, the reason I didn't include pac vs floyd in the list is because I believe even in replay petition, floyd could have the edge it, but that's just me, I maybe a bit bias because I'm a floyd fan but I don't mind being proven wrong if the actual replay review says otherwise.

But nevertheless, it's high time for replay to be included in boxing, that one I can agree with you wholeheartedly, we've been taken for a ride for too long already by this boxing bodies. We need change. We need to make the scoring objective so that we can take the power of manipulation out of their hands once and for all. There is nothing wrong with replay petition I vote for that. All other sports is using it already because it makes sense. I can't see why boxing can't do it, when every fighter lives are in peril every second of every round in this very dangerous sport.

If boxing bodies would just ask people and fighters themselves if they want replay included in the system. I am 100% sure 99.9% of those will say yes. You're just either a fool or part of the corrupt system if you don't want it.

[Real King Kong]

No need for that. Smart people like you knows he cheated. That will forever be a bad rash he will carry till his last breath.

That's all she wrote.

This post paints a perfect picture of how pathetic you are. Wishing something negative from a man's younger years follows him until his death lol. He hurt you worse than i thought. Smh

[Spoon23]

I don't think so, the reason I didn't include pac vs floyd in the list is because I believe even in replay petition, floyd could have the edge it, but that's just me, I maybe a bit bias because I'm a floyd fan but I don't mind being proven wrong if the actual replay review says otherwise.

But nevertheless, it's high time for replay to be included in boxing, that one I can agree with you wholeheartedly, we've been taken for a ride for too long already by this boxing bodies. We need change. We need to make the scoring objective so that we can take the power of manipulation out of their hands once and for all. There is nothing wrong with replay petition I vote for that. All other sports is using it already because it makes sense. I can't see why boxing can't do it, when every fighter lives are in peril every second of every round in this very dangerous sport.

If boxing bodies would just ask people and fighters themselves if they want replay included in the system. I am 100% sure 99.9% of those will say yes. You're just either a fool or part of the corrupt system if you don't want it.

Have you seen the videos I posted? Those video analysis shows who connected cleanly throughout the fight. Watch it and you'll see a whole new perspective of what transpired that night.

I know you are inclined to be biased since you are a Floyd fan as you have mentioned, but try to be objective and see for yourself. Time stamp it if you don't agree, but I assure you the author of the vids showed fairness in his scoring.

The one who connected more per rounds were cleanly documented as you did mention the fight was close.

Since the fights was close, you clearly suggested if it is at least close and can be disputed a reevaluation should have proven useful.

Cheers!

[Zaroku]

This is not for pac fool, this is for the whole betterment of the sport or are you still enjoying being taken for a ride by the boxing bodies. I am presenting an idea for the betterment of the sport not for the benefit of just one person. If you can't contribute something into the sport then you're just a piece of **** here at boxingscene, what are you doing here anyway.

A bad idea! A joke of an idea!

[ButtScratcher^^]

Good points. Those fights were all questionable and would have benefited if post fight review were in play.

We can also include Pac vs May in the list of questionable calls. as how this video has proven it. Accuracy in any sport is paramount. Especially a sport involves huge betting.

More accuracy should matter.

This would lead to every close fight being petitioned. And since judging a fight is subjective...i don't know how you'd expect to get a definitive result.

Yes and rightfully so, we wait one hour or even less for petition to end. We've waited long enough for even a single fight to happen why can't we wait an hour more to get proper scoring of the fight.

You'll see it will be nice, sweet and all goodness because they have installed different cameras on every different angles, so they would really see if the actual punch connected or not or if it's a real effective clean punches or not or if indeed it hit the opponent or not, specially when viewed on top angle there is no single punch that would escape a multiple angle replay and HBO or Showtime have the a professional studio grade equipment for that. And while they are doing the review, it would be nice if it is presented on live also, so that people can watch while they're reviewing the fight. For a real hardcore fans, that is true gold there.

A replay review or petition will solve all the mystery it just needs a little creativity to make it into the scoring system which should be easy, they would have too otherwise it will not work. Replay review will make the scoring system objective not subjective, that will take the power from the boxing bodies to manipulate the sport and end it right then and there, which they've been doing for so long already.

[Zaroku]

This would lead to every close fight being petitioned. And since judging a fight is subjective...i don't know how you'd expect to get a definitive result.

Perfect! Additionally, how could we make sure the reviewers were not compromised? Then we would need more independent reviewers.

Corruption inviting band aids. It is too subjective to judge. We see things that we value, very hard to quantify how to score fights. We have basic scoring criteria, but we all score things the way we see them.

I am sure in isolation it sounded like a good idea to ass scratch, but the criteria is too subjective.

[ButtScratcher^^]

Have you seen the videos I posted? Those video analysis shows who connected cleanly throughout the fight. Watch it and you'll see a whole new perspective of what transpired that night.

I know you are inclined to be biased since you are a Floyd fan as you have mentioned, but try to be objective and see for yourself. Time stamp it if you don't agree, but I assure you the author of the vids showed fairness in his scoring.

The one who connected more per rounds were cleanly documented as you did mention the fight was close.

Since the fights was close, you clearly suggested if it is at least close and can be disputed a reevaluation should have proven useful.

Cheers!

No i didn't watch it all, I presume it's all edited to favor pac so I didn't think I should watch it. But I am in favor of replay review in the future. I will fight for that. So many controversial and manipulation by the scum of the earth boxing bodies already. It's high time to protest against these fools.

[Real King Kong]

Perfect! Additionally, how could we make sure the reviewers were not compromised? Then we would need more independent reviewers.

Corruption inviting band aids. It is too subjective to judge. We see things that we value, very hard to quantify how to score fights. We have basic scoring criteria, but we all score things the way we see them.

I am sure in isolation it sounded like a good idea to ass scratch, but the criteria is too subjective.

Not to mention, how do you judge one punches impact or effect compared to another. These guys whining about scoring after watching slomo videos of one camera angle crack me up. There's a reason judges sit on different sides of the ring. These fools probably have never even sat ringside at a fight and don't understand the difference that it makes.

[Zaroku]

Not to mention, how do you judge one punches impact or effect compared to another. These guys whining about scoring after watching slomo videos of one camera angle crack me up. There's a reason judges sit on different sides of the ring. These fools probably have never even sat ringside at a fight and don't understand the difference that it makes.

Exactly. 3 different points of view. The goal being to see things from different angles. Also, say a guy lands bombs, but when he gets hit by a jab his knees buckle rugularly. How do you determine who wins? The guy who took the big shots and was unfazed? Or the guy who got hurt regularly?

People talk about Marg & his hand wraps, but Cotto hit him with some bombs that had very little effect. Marg didn't have chin wraps on.

[Zaroku]

No i didn't watch it all, I presume it's all edited to favor pac so I didn't think I should watch it. But I am in favor of replay review in the future. I will fight for that. So many controversial and manipulation by the scum of the earth boxing bodies already. It's high time to protest against these fools.

Good for you! Only you can save boxing!