Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[Spoon23]

Reloaded,

I have told you Pac has a chronic rotator cuff injury. Everyone knows that except you lol

2ndly, you shrug this important truth I pointed out in the art of war. A competitor wont tell his opponent he was injured or is injured. That would be like a shark smelling blood.

His opponent, in this case Floyd will take advantage and exploit that weakness. As we later found out, Floyd had his own spy in Pac's camp and it even became apparent during the fight, Floyd tried to pull Pac's right arm over and over. He knew something was wrong with Pac right shoulder.

3rdly, Pac was nursing a right shoulder injury even before the fight, but since the show must go on. Millions of fans around the world are already set to watch it. Broadcasters from around the world are all set, the world media is all set, the hotels in vegas were booked, bookies are ready. Pac knew he has to fight even if he wasnt 100%. Which he did, and as we find out even without a Toradol shot, it was still enough to win hin the fight, since video evidences has proven with just one arm he outpunched Floyd for 12 rounds.

Lastly, since Pac asked permission from Nsac and later denied legal toradol shot. Does it really matter? He didnt get one in this fight. So what's your point? I repeat, Pac didnt get a legal shot of Toradol which is not in the banned substance list of Nsac. So what's the fuzz bud? You are reaching lol

# oh, since I've answered your question thoroughly, I think I deserve at least one question From the mountain of questions you havent answered.

# why is it that up to now there is still no attending physician to come out and vouch for Floyd's iv treatment? Why is it that there is no one to confirm on why he needed those iv treatment, and why he was dehydrated that time. Why?

... Tick tock buddy

[tangalog2200]

Reloaded,

I have told you Pac has a chronic rotator cuff injury. Everyone knows that except you lol

2ndly, you shrug this important truth I pointed out in the art of war. A competitor wont tell his opponent he was injured or is injured. That would be like a shark smelling blood.

His opponent, in this case Floyd will take advantage and exploit that weakness. As we later found out, Floyd had his own spy in Pac's camp and we later found out it was evident that during the fight, Floyd tried to pull Pac's right arm over and over. He knew something was wrong with Pac right shoulder.

3rdly, Pac was nursing a right shoulder injury even before the fight, but since the show must go on. Millions of fans around the world are already set to watch it. Broadcasters from around the world are all set, the world media is all set, the hotels in vegas were booked, bookies are ready. Pac knew he has to fight even if he wasnt 100%. Which he did, and as we find out even witt a Toradol shot, it was still enough to win hin the fight, since video evidences has proven with just one arm he outpunched Floyd for 12 rounds.

Lastly, since Pac asked permission from Nsac and later denied legal toradol shot. Does it really matter? He didnt get one in this fight. So what's your point? I repeat, Pac didnt get a legal shot of Toradol which is not in the banned substance list of Nsac. So what's the fuzz bud? You reaching lol

# oh, since I've answered your question thoroughly, I think I deserve at least one question From the mountain of questions you havent answered.

# why is it that up to now there is still no attending physician to come out and vouch for Floyd's iv treatment? Why is it that there is no one to confirm on why he needed those iv treatment, and why he was dehydrated that time. Why?

... Tick tock buddy

very nice counter by spoon....

will reloaded take a knee?

[Reloaded]

Try another one .

Manny said only days ago his shoulder was perfect before the fight the injury he claimed happened during the fight .

[Spoon23]

Try another one .

Manny said only days ago his shoulder was perfect before the fight the injury he claimed happened during the fight .

Lol I just explained that to you.

Art of war.

You dont tell your opponent you are injured before a bout. That's dumb.

He had to hide it. As i said it's like a shark smelling blood or a lion who's seen an injured prey.

Reading comprehension bud. It's a good thing.

[tangalog2200]

Lol I just explained that to you.

Art of war.

You dont tell your opponent you are injured before a bout. That's dumb.

He had to hide it. As i said it's like a shark smelling blood or a lion who's seen an injured prey.

Reading comprehension bud. It's a good thing.

another 1-2 combo from spoon...

will reloaded's corner throw in the towel now?

[Reloaded]

Lol I just explained that to you.

Art of war.

You dont tell your opponent you are injured before a bout. That's dumb.

He had to hide it. As i said it's like a shark smelling blood or a lion who's seen an injured prey.

Reading comprehension bud. It's a good thing.

No youre saying Manny lied here told the truth there and lied again there !

The real truth is you dismiss what you dont want to hear as Manny and Arum lying , five minutes later your present what they said some time previous .as being true , you just flip around ignoring what you dont want to see .

Do you understand that when somebody totally flips their story from the very first thing they said they are 99% of the time lying , it was put to him by Kellerman straight after the fight , no shoulder problem then lol .

Here is a scenario .

Manny has been using TORADOL since 2009 when Arum said the injury was there since 2009 .

This the reason he refused blood testing for Floyd , because he didnt want it disclosed that he was using TORADOL it would have just taken the shine of what he was doing in boxing so its better to keep it quite .

Move on the May fight , this is the only fight where Arum was not in control of testing so Manny was forced to disclose he used TORADOL , but he skrewed up when he tried to get his usual shot before his fights , and here we are the cat was let out of the bag .

Mannys fights since 2009 are all in question because of TORADOL .

“Manny Pacquaio has had a torn rotator cuff since 2008. Generally if it ticks up in training, you rest it for a couple of days and it’s fine. Here, it seemed a little bit more severe in the training. We had him treated by orthopedic doctors?they treated him with approved drugs, approved by USADA. Two weeks before the fight, the injury had cleared up, he was again using his right hand and he went in 100% in the fight.

[tangalog2200]

No youre saying Manny lied here told the truth there and lied again there !

The real truth is you dismiss what you dont want to hear as Manny and Arum lying , five minutes later your present what they said some time previous .as being true , you just flip around ignoring what you dont want to see .

Do you understand that when somebody totally flips their story from the very first thing they said they are 99% of the time lying , it was put to him by Kellerman straight after the fight , no shoulder problem then lol .

Here is a scenario .

Manny has been using TORADOL since 2009 when Arum said the injury was there since 2009 .

This the reason he refused blood testing for Floyd , because he didnt want it disclosed that he was using TORADOL it would have just taken the shine of what he was doing in boxing so its better to keep it quite .

Move on the May fight , this is the only fight where Arum was not in control of testing so Manny was forced to disclose he used TORADOL , but he skrewed up when he tried to get his usual shot before his fights , and here we are the cat was let out of the bag .

Mannys fights since 2009 are all in question because of TORADOL .

“Manny Pacquaio has had a torn rotator cuff since 2008. Generally if it ticks up in training, you rest it for a couple of days and it’s fine. Here, it seemed a little bit more severe in the training. We had him treated by orthopedic doctors?they treated him with approved drugs, approved by USADA. Two weeks before the fight, the injury had cleared up, he was again using his right hand and he went in 100% in the fight.

reloaded in a counter-offensive..showing some ring generalship, effective aggression coupled with sleek defense..

[Spoon23]

I pass the ball to you Tangalog. Reloaded cant seem to understand the veracity of Pac's injury was tolerable to continue on for the May 2 fight.

Care to explain to Reloaded? Even if we know Pac didnt even take a toradol shot, since he wasnt allowed by nsac, it seems it's cheating to him lol

[Reloaded]

reloaded in a counter-offensive..showing some ring generalship, effective aggression coupled with sleek defense..

Just connecting the dots and asking the questions that should be asked concerning Manny and TORADOL , people have been accusing Manny of this amazing transformation destroying larger fighters and blaming PEDS , Ive always believed it was the draining CWs that allowed it happen , but can we rule out TORADOL after what has surfaced .

I believe TORADOL is a very big Elephant in the room , I would like to see a reporter ask the tough questions of Manny but they are not allowed too .

It does not smell rosy !

[Reloaded]

I pass the ball to you Tangalog. Reloaded cant seem to understand the veracity of Pac's injury was tolerable to continue on for the May 2 fight.

Care to explain to Reloaded? Even if we know Pac didnt even take a toradol shot, since he wasnt allowed by nsac, it seems it's cheating to him lol

You mean you cant accept Manny and Arum stating they were 100% going into the fight , so like everything you dont want to hear you will apply your kid rational either stat they are all lying this time , or you run off with cartoons .

Mannys legacy is question here .

TORADOL is your worst nightmare !