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Originally posted by butterfly1964 View PostOne of the greatest fights ever!
Probably the greatest 15th round in heavyweight history.Both fighters showed alotof heart and you could see that Larry really left it all in that ring that night with how he couldn't even stand anymore.
I agree that Larry is definitely underrated big time and doesn't get the respect that he deserves. I think the reasons for this is how he beat up on old Muhammed Ali and then how he disrespected Rocky Marciano with his comment that he couldn't hold his jock strap. While he had one of the best jabs in boxing history, he also had an attitude that rubbed some people the wrong way.
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What's wrong with Holmes?
He slags of all the old great champions like Marciano saying they are not fit enough to lick his boots.
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Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger View Posthe's a true bastard. His attitude is comparable to a grumpy teenager. He believes he is the greatest of all time and that his victory against Ali means that he could have beaten him in his prime.
He slags of all the old great champions like Marciano saying they are not fit enough to lick his boots.
and wanted to start a fight with gerry Cooney!
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Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger View PostHe believes he is the greatest of all time and that his victory against Ali means that he could have beaten him in his prime.
When & where did you hear/read Holmes give that much significance to his win over Ali, Stinger?
I'm just browsing over Holmes' words in "Facing Ali" and to me it's pretty clear by his words that he doesn't give himself NEARLY the credit that you alluded to. In fact his views on that fight are similiar to anybody else's, and Holmes does call Ali "old" for that fight, makes a distinction between the Ali of 1975 and the one from 1980 (in regards to how much Ali's skills/abilities had depleted in that time), says he was in a "no-win situation" if he beat an old Ali, etc., etc., etc...No where in that book is he giving himself credit for the Ali win, and along with himself, he calls each of Ali, Marciano, Dempsey, Louis "one of the greatest" heavyweights of all-time (that same quote is used for himself, as he considers himself "one of").
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No where in that book is he giving himself credit for the Ali win, and along with himself, he calls each of Ali, Marciano, Dempsey, Louis "one of the greatest" heavyweights of all-time (that same quote is used for himself, as he considers himself "one of").
A few of his quotes on here are quite disrespectful. Ali may have been the biggest talker in boxing but he always backed up what he said and he always showed respect to Marciano and the like.
This one stuck out,You can't put those guys like Marciano or anyone else in with today's class of fighters.
When & where did you hear/read Holmes give that much significance to his win over Ali, Stinger?
"And you beat Muhammad Ali didn't you?"
Holmes responded in a smug way, "Yep. I was the only guy to ever stop him within the distance" said as though he was proud of his achievement.Last edited by Southpaw Stinger; 10-06-2006, 07:37 PM.
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Originally posted by Yogi View PostNothing wrong with a fighter thinking the highest of himself, and if that is one of the criteria used to determine a bastard, then Ali must've been the biggest friggin bastard to have ever walked the face of the earth...
When & where did you hear/read Holmes give that much significance to his win over Ali, Stinger?
I'm just browsing over Holmes' words in "Facing Ali" and to me it's pretty clear by his words that he doesn't give himself NEARLY the credit that you alluded to. In fact his views on that fight are similiar to anybody else's, and Holmes does call Ali "old" for that fight, makes a distinction between the Ali of 1975 and the one from 1980 (in regards to how much Ali's skills/abilities had depleted in that time), says he was in a "no-win situation" if he beat an old Ali, etc., etc., etc...No where in that book is he giving himself credit for the Ali win, and along with himself, he calls each of Ali, Marciano, Dempsey, Louis "one of the greatest" heavyweights of all-time (that same quote is used for himself, as he considers himself "one of").
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