Greatest Latino fighters of all-time?

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He barely won against a green Azumah.
He beat Little Red and Gomez but they were both shot.
That makes you great now???

What about losing to Pat Ford and a couple of other bums?

I would argue Leo Gamez was better than him at everything



Fcuk Sanchez

Whats with you and this Lee Gamez lol

[chrisJS]

Whats with you and this Lee Gamez lol

He's a troll. He'll go away after Lomachenko beats Rigondeaux.

[Hasegawa]

IMO -


10. Juan Manuel Marquez

11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Wilfredo Gomez

Gomez has a strong case for the best superbantam that ever lived. But according to you Salvador Sanchez and Juan Manuel Marquez are better?
Based of what? Can you give a rational explanation for this.

He was phenomenal. I just don't think he accomplished as much as the 10 that I listed above. Perhaps he maybe had some more quality than a few. I love Sal, he's my favorite fighter from before my time (I'm 32) but the shortness of his career is what kept it just short. Again can't hold the death against him but by the same token we never saw his decline nor is it fair to rank him higher than other fighters with more accomplishments.

Oh so you're nostalgic and biased. lol okay
At least you admit it.

Nope. Heard of him many years ago. He's a reference point to why winning titles in multiple divisions isn't what it's cracked up to be. Like Broner

What a disingenuous and cowardly thing to say. Are you saying Gamez is a fraud? (paper champ) Are you saying you think Broner is BETTER?????!!!???!??
Please be clear in you answer so everyone can see your true colors. lol


If it's so "easy" to win all these belts. Why doesn't everyone do it?

Why have so few latin champs conquered 4 weights?
Leo is one of a select few to have achieved it.
(And remember he is really a 5 weight world champion)

I would say guys like Linares and robert guerero are good examples of fake multi-weight "belt holders" not Leo.

You don't think a man who carries his punching power through 4 weights at world level and into advanced age is special???

You don't think a guy who always traveled for title fights (and had success) is a noteworthy???

Again be clear with your answers lol. Lets see your true colors?


Leo accomplished more that bum Sanchez. Right or Wrong?

He's a troll. He'll go away after Lomachenko beats Rigondeaux.

What does that fight have to do with anything?
You're just mad that I exposed you and your lack of knwledge.

[Hasegawa]

Whats with you and this Lee Gamez lol

Leo Gamez Is one of the best Latin fighters to ever lace em up.
It's sad he doesn't get mentioned more often.

Don't listen to chrisJS he is a liar. He is just mad i exposed his lack of knowledge on this subject. lol

I suggest you watch Leo for yourself and make up your own mind. I'm sure you will find he is a true boxing legend.

He also has plenty of ridiculously crazy action packed fights.
You won't be bored.

[chrisJS]

Gomez has a strong case for the best superbantam that ever lived. But according to you Salvador Sanchez and Juan Manuel Marquez are better?
Based of what? Can you give a rational explanation for this.



Oh so you're nostalgic and biased. lol okay
At least you admit it.







What a disingenuous and cowardly thing to say. Are you saying Gamez is a fraud? (paper champ) Are you saying you think Broner is BETTER?????!!!???!??
Please be clear in you answer so everyone can see your true colors. lol


If it's so "easy" to win all these belts. Why doesn't everyone do it?

Why have so few latin champs conquered 4 weights?
Leo is one of a select few to have achieved it.
(And remember he is really a 5 weight world champion)

I would say guys like Linares and robert guerero are good examples of fake multi-weight "belt holders" not Leo.

You don't think a man who carries his punching power through 4 weights at world level and into advanced age is special???

You don't think a guy who always traveled for title fights (and had success) is a noteworthy???

Again be clear with your answers lol. Lets see your true colors?


Leo accomplished more that bum Sanchez. Right or Wrong?





What does that fight have to do with anything?
You're just mad that I exposed you and your lack of knwledge.

Ha, a new account! You've never seen Gamez beyond boxrec get off his ****.

If a four division titlist is so hard then why the disrespect for Marquez who achieved just that and beat better fighters? Also, was a unified title holder in two divisions and lineal in a 3rd? Also, "really a 5 division champ", well then Marquez is really a 5 division champ too. Yet Gomez, who won 3 (really 2 Lockridge win was a gift) who got pummeled by a bum like Sanchez is better? Again, Gomez is an all-time great but by your logic a bum.

It's harder to be the best ever at 126 as at 122. It's like 100 years older.

No, Gamez is better than Broner. I lumped him with him. You said Broner is better than Marquez and Hagler and Pep, Robinson, Benny Leonard, Greb, Griffith, Chavez, Ortiz and about 200 other hall of famers. That's poor. Almost as poor as looking on boxrec to see what Sanchez fights went the distance to say he lost.

I'll see you on your next account

[Hasegawa]

Ha, a new account! You've never seen Gamez beyond boxrec get off his ****.

This is called projection. lol
You're the one who hadn't heard of Gamez till yesterday.

And clearly you never seen him fight to have such a low opinion of him.

You do realize this is painfully obvious to ANYONE who reads this thread???

It's harder to be the best ever at 126 as at 122. It's like 100 years older.

lol wut????
I genuinely don't understand

You said Broner is better than Marquez and Hagler and Pep, Robinson, Benny Leonard, Greb, Griffith, Chavez, Ortiz and about 200 other hall of famers.

When did I say that?
Liar....

If a four division titlist is so hard then why the disrespect for Marquez who achieved just that and beat better fighters?

Marquez only has one noteworthy name on his record.
And he needed steroids to beat him....

Just because you haven't heard of older fighters it doesn't make them worse... lol
Just makes you ignorant.

who got pummeled by a bum like Sanchez is better? Again, Gomez is an all-time great but by your logic a bum.

Gomez has a case for best super bantam that ever lived, right or wrong?

Sanchez has no case for best feather of all time
right or wrong?

Ha, a new account! You've never seen Gamez beyond boxrec get off his ****.

If a four division titlist is so hard then why the disrespect for Marquez who achieved just that and beat better fighters? Also, was a unified title holder in two divisions and lineal in a 3rd? Also, "really a 5 division champ", well then Marquez is really a 5 division champ too.

Now your deflecting. If you think so highly of Marquez why don't you give any credit to Gamez.

Oh yeah that's right you'd never heard of him till yesterday lol.

And you don't want to lose face and admit that.
(people like you hinder you own learning)

And in your mind you don't want to give me the "satisfaction" of knowing I educated you about an ATG and one of the most entertaining fighters you could ever watch.

"sanchezz da best doe"
despite doing hardly anything.....
lol

[chrisJS]

This is called projection. lol
You're the one who hadn't heard of Gamez till yesterday.

And clearly you never seen him fight to have such a low opinion of him.

You do realize this is painfully obvious to ANYONE who reads this thread???



lol wut????
I genuinely don't understand



When did I say that?
Liar....




Marquez only has one noteworthy name on his record.
And he needed steroids to beat him....

Just because you haven't heard of older fighters it doesn't make them worse... lol
Just makes you ignorant.



Gomez has a case for best super bantam that ever lived, right or wrong?

Sanchez has no case for best feather of all time
right or wrong?



Now your deflecting. If you think so highly of Marquez why don't you give any credit to Gamez.

Oh yeah that's right you'd never heard of him till yesterday lol.

And you don't want to lose face and admit that.
(people like you hinder you own learning)

And in your mind you don't want to give me the "satisfaction" of knowing I educated you about an ATG and one of the most entertaining fighters you could ever watch.

"sanchezz da best doe"
despite doing hardly anything.....
lol

Go back and check my posts. You'll see I've referenced Gamez a long time ago when talking to casuals like you who think weight hopping is the be all end all. That's not my claim of Gamez, but I've used Gamez name when a Floyd fan for example says Hagler was trash he was a one division champ or that Floyd is better than Robinson he has more titles. You can be a one division champ and be much better than a four division title holder.

Of course Gomez is the best ever at 122. A division formed in what, the 1970's? You didn't know that. You thought it was as old as Featherweight. Complete lack of knowledge and history. Sanchez isn't the best ever. But Sanchez did beat the hell out of Gomez.

Weird that you give Gamez so much credit and Marquez so little when your argument for Gamez is 4 titles. Chiquita Gonzalez beat better guys than Gamez and he also was able to win some close decisions in Korea and Japan. Same with Daniel Zaragoza, Gilberto Roman. You've never heard of them, well at least not Roman.

Again, you can check post history to see references of Gamez. There's no proof that you didn't just learn about Gamez yesterday for trolling purposes. It's very likely given that you have created multiple accounts and such.

[StarshipTrooper]

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[chrisJS]

This is called projection. lol
You're the one who hadn't heard of Gamez till yesterday.

And clearly you never seen him fight to have such a low opinion of him.

You do realize this is painfully obvious to ANYONE who reads this thread???



lol wut????
I genuinely don't understand



When did I say that?
Liar....




Marquez only has one noteworthy name on his record.
And he needed steroids to beat him....

Just because you haven't heard of older fighters it doesn't make them worse... lol
Just makes you ignorant.



Gomez has a case for best super bantam that ever lived, right or wrong?

Sanchez has no case for best feather of all time
right or wrong?



Now your deflecting. If you think so highly of Marquez why don't you give any credit to Gamez.

Oh yeah that's right you'd never heard of him till yesterday lol.

And you don't want to lose face and admit that.
(people like you hinder you own learning)

And in your mind you don't want to give me the "satisfaction" of knowing I educated you about an ATG and one of the most entertaining fighters you could ever watch.

"sanchezz da best doe"
despite doing hardly anything.....
lol

I see you went silent there so you could research and boxrec some more and make up more b.s.

See you tomorrow under a different alias.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

IMO -

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Carlos Ortiz
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Ruben Olivares
8. Jose Napoles
9. Julio Cesar Chavez
10. Juan Manuel Marquez

11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Wilfredo Gomez
13. Kid Chocolate
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Felix Trinidad
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Ricardo Lopez
18. Marco Antonio Barrera
19. Erik Morales
20. Panama Al Brown

Honorable mention: Pascual Perez, Vicente Saldivar, Miguel Canto, Luis Rodriguez, Antonio Cervantes, Eusebio Pedroza, Ismael Laguna, Roman Gonzalez,

Hard to rank them but you got them in a decent order though I would have Carlos zarate higher