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    Adrien Broner when the "problem" becomes our problem.


    Maidana melted the Wicked Witch of Cincinnati. The kid with the big mouth, no humility and a bad habit of writing checks with his mouth that his ass could not cash!

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    Schadenfreude has never felt so good in boxing land. Boxing land is a place where duplicity and being duped go together like peanut butter and chocolate. It is a place where a man like Floyd Mayweather Junior who could not sell a drink of water to a dessert rat, emerged from the De La Hoya fight as the man who makes it rain.

    In his own words, “Love me or hate me either way you will pay me�

    Read on after the break, or discuss in our boxing forum

    From the fish netted coattails of De La Hoya, in a split decision win for Mayweather, a legend was birthed…No due diligence was required to confer such a place for Mayweather in boxing history because fans have a short attention span. Little Floyd went From zero to sixty, from the goat who was boring to watch, to some declaring him the G.O.A.T. His foibles became gist for the money mill: jail time for personal issues, sucker punching his way to a win over a crazy young fighter he could have perhaps bested legitimately in the ring andlately� Floyd never misses an opportunity to step on the throat of the IRS besieged Manny Pacquiao.

    Why not? hate sells!

    Mayweather is our new and improved PT Barnum! Line up for the lollipop suckers! Not only is he ready to dupe us all, but he tells us how we are to be duped. A wonderful poster on another site who shall remain anonymous described Floyd as creating big paydays and lavish promotions. There seems

    to be an “understanding.�

    Think the opposite of Gatti versus Ward and More like Jones versus Del Valle type action. The gravy train is rolling, little Floyd coming to a town near you! The payday for a young fighter is career altering, in fact a loss becomes academic. You get paid and promoted by the man making it rain�. You make sure the promotion is done right, you have the requisite stare downs, toss a few insults, but when the action starts its all polite, playing nice and “respectful like� in the ring, you know both: your place and who butters your bread…In a different context Slapsy Maxie the great light heavy weight, when asked why he had so few KO’s said: “I took it easy cause someone coulda got huyt in dere!�

    Broner is smart enough to have observed how his mentor parts the dollars from the boxing public. Broner wanted some of that action and appointed himself Floyd’s main protege, his little brother. This was no idle boast, and in an age where characters like Charlie Z can walk into a gym and actually get

    Floyd senior to smack him around…much less look at him…and where a Roach Groupie can emerge as the unlicensed accountant-slash- Bob Arum lackey, who may have financially destroyed Manny P to the tune of millions�.one must ask: who questions these self appointed tin throne demagogues? Not that Floyd didn’t encourage and was not supportive of this relationship�.But did some one at least question the Broner hype? Broner, for his part, drank the kool aid and convinced himself that trailing after Floyd grinning like a hyena and saying “easy work� would make it so�. Broner figured that the script would be like it was for big brother, a few shots and like Floyd, he would get his hand raised. Why not? It had happened before, Broner had seen the judges raise his hand even when Ponce, and others had obviously beaten him. Being little brother had its privileges and surely Maidana knew the score!

    Meanwhile the gullible boxing public got the morality play they desired� Maidana punished Broner, the grinning parvenu, like a Singapore cop caning a reprobate gum chewer �.And they ate it up relishing the symbolic dry hump�.Poof! Broner’s manhood gone! Replaying the tortured positions

    Broner lay in and around the ring, to loud guffaws. Some say Broner showed heart, I question that contention. He looked scared, and was looking for a way out after he first started to realize Maidana wasn’t playing nice like Floyd’s opponents as of late seem to do in the ring.

    Broner looked psychologically broken after the fight and did not have the skills to keep Maidana off of him, skills that Floyd had developed with footwork and timing. What kept Broner going was perhaps the immortal words of Broner’s mentor “love me or hate me, either way you will pay me!� Broner also seems

    very concerned with his marketability after the fight by some accounts. Should this have been such a concern? Priorities!

    As sports fans we are supposed to distinguish and decide who deserves a chance, or not. When some self entitled near do well gets a grab at the brass ring we seem to respond like a laugh track during a bad seventies sitcom. When people with juice say it is so, the media glorifies an individual and we

    seldom reflect on whether our support is actually warranted. Boxing fans talk about values, about the need for competitive fights, etc and we are more than willing to take the moral high ground when fighters have issues, yet we still, as a group, are told who will get to perform in the square circle, like it

    or lump it.

    There is an old principle that states when you don’t use power you give it away. Fans give so much power away and we seldom look carefully at the takers. We enrich promoters like Bob Arum…an alleged friend of Manny Pacquiao, a friend who will not step aside so his IRS debt laden

    friend can challenge Floyd to a fight that the public has a real interest In viewing. We give millions, letting Mayweather decide who he will bless with a payday, instead of demanding he engage opponents that are worthy in our estimation. And Broner feels entitled to keep fighting against competition that

    he has arguably not earned the right to fight. When has Broner beaten a great fighter in a clear and convincing fashion? Thats what champions

    generally do.

    Why does Broner get another crack at a champion? Why does Broner get this payday? Because we accept it, that is why. Broner the uncouth individual who could not even shake Paulie’s hand, Broner the self appointed one, shoved down fans throats with the immortal words of big brother Floyd “love me hate me, you will pay to see me.�

    And that is the “problem� and not the problem with the “problem� Broner, that is the problem with boxing fans. We have given up so much power that we will pay to see a guy who has not proven jack in the ring because he has potential, connections and virtually for all purpose, the same self appointed

    status as a Charlie Z. We will let Arum tell us who we can watch fight, along with the other promoters�.We let boxing commissions censor fighters like Tyson Fury for telling the truth and if that is not enough? We let the British Boxing Commission almost stop the best heavyweight fight in years!

    We look at a young hard working fighter who is getting better every fight, like Derrick Chisora and call him a wife beater and thug�.yet endorse a truly morally reprehensible unworthy like Broner because he has tithed himself off the church of Floyd courtesy of the the electric kool aid and the hand

    extended by De La Hoya (a hand Floyd will perhaps never extend to Pacquiao).

    So where does it end with Broner? How many chances does he get? Is he the only guy in the middle divisions with talent? How far will his connections take him? How many threads and discussions will revolve around hoping that the judges are not corrupt enough to raise Broner’s hand unless it should

    be raised? When will boxing fans remember that paying to see this numbskull get a beat down is still paying him? Wanna pay Broner for that? Lets all pitch in a few bucks, get a pot together and have Kimbo and Broner go at it in a backyard somewhere�.winner take all.

    I only say this because I know Kimbo is equal to the task� I would never deny Kimbo, a guy who works hard, a payday. With all due respect Broner picked a great name. He is indeed a problem, he is in a word�.our problem.

    #2
    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
    Adrien Broner when the "problem" becomes our problem.


    Maidana melted the Wicked Witch of Cincinnati. The kid with the big mouth, no humility and a bad habit of writing checks with his mouth that his ass could not cash!

    image

    Schadenfreude has never felt so good in boxing land. Boxing land is a place where duplicity and being duped go together like peanut butter and chocolate. It is a place where a man like Floyd Mayweather Junior who could not sell a drink of water to a dessert rat, emerged from the De La Hoya fight as the man who makes it rain.

    In his own words, “Love me or hate me either way you will pay me�

    Read on after the break, or discuss in our boxing forum

    From the fish netted coattails of De La Hoya, in a split decision win for Mayweather, a legend was birthed…No due diligence was required to confer such a place for Mayweather in boxing history because fans have a short attention span. Little Floyd went From zero to sixty, from the goat who was boring to watch, to some declaring him the G.O.A.T. His foibles became gist for the money mill: jail time for personal issues, sucker punching his way to a win over a crazy young fighter he could have perhaps bested legitimately in the ring andlately� Floyd never misses an opportunity to step on the throat of the IRS besieged Manny Pacquiao.

    Why not? hate sells!

    Mayweather is our new and improved PT Barnum! Line up for the lollipop suckers! Not only is he ready to dupe us all, but he tells us how we are to be duped. A wonderful poster on another site who shall remain anonymous described Floyd as creating big paydays and lavish promotions. There seems

    to be an “understanding.�

    Think the opposite of Gatti versus Ward and More like Jones versus Del Valle type action. The gravy train is rolling, little Floyd coming to a town near you! The payday for a young fighter is career altering, in fact a loss becomes academic. You get paid and promoted by the man making it rain�. You make sure the promotion is done right, you have the requisite stare downs, toss a few insults, but when the action starts its all polite, playing nice and “respectful like� in the ring, you know both: your place and who butters your bread…In a different context Slapsy Maxie the great light heavy weight, when asked why he had so few KO’s said: “I took it easy cause someone coulda got huyt in dere!�

    Broner is smart enough to have observed how his mentor parts the dollars from the boxing public. Broner wanted some of that action and appointed himself Floyd’s main protege, his little brother. This was no idle boast, and in an age where characters like Charlie Z can walk into a gym and actually get

    Floyd senior to smack him around…much less look at him…and where a Roach Groupie can emerge as the unlicensed accountant-slash- Bob Arum lackey, who may have financially destroyed Manny P to the tune of millions�.one must ask: who questions these self appointed tin throne demagogues? Not that Floyd didn’t encourage and was not supportive of this relationship�.But did some one at least question the Broner hype? Broner, for his part, drank the kool aid and convinced himself that trailing after Floyd grinning like a hyena and saying “easy work� would make it so�. Broner figured that the script would be like it was for big brother, a few shots and like Floyd, he would get his hand raised. Why not? It had happened before, Broner had seen the judges raise his hand even when Ponce, and others had obviously beaten him. Being little brother had its privileges and surely Maidana knew the score!

    Meanwhile the gullible boxing public got the morality play they desired� Maidana punished Broner, the grinning parvenu, like a Singapore cop caning a reprobate gum chewer �.And they ate it up relishing the symbolic dry hump�.Poof! Broner’s manhood gone! Replaying the tortured positions

    Broner lay in and around the ring, to loud guffaws. Some say Broner showed heart, I question that contention. He looked scared, and was looking for a way out after he first started to realize Maidana wasn’t playing nice like Floyd’s opponents as of late seem to do in the ring.

    Broner looked psychologically broken after the fight and did not have the skills to keep Maidana off of him, skills that Floyd had developed with footwork and timing. What kept Broner going was perhaps the immortal words of Broner’s mentor “love me or hate me, either way you will pay me!� Broner also seems

    very concerned with his marketability after the fight by some accounts. Should this have been such a concern? Priorities!

    As sports fans we are supposed to distinguish and decide who deserves a chance, or not. When some self entitled near do well gets a grab at the brass ring we seem to respond like a laugh track during a bad seventies sitcom. When people with juice say it is so, the media glorifies an individual and we

    seldom reflect on whether our support is actually warranted. Boxing fans talk about values, about the need for competitive fights, etc and we are more than willing to take the moral high ground when fighters have issues, yet we still, as a group, are told who will get to perform in the square circle, like it

    or lump it.

    There is an old principle that states when you don’t use power you give it away. Fans give so much power away and we seldom look carefully at the takers. We enrich promoters like Bob Arum…an alleged friend of Manny Pacquiao, a friend who will not step aside so his IRS debt laden

    friend can challenge Floyd to a fight that the public has a real interest In viewing. We give millions, letting Mayweather decide who he will bless with a payday, instead of demanding he engage opponents that are worthy in our estimation. And Broner feels entitled to keep fighting against competition that

    he has arguably not earned the right to fight. When has Broner beaten a great fighter in a clear and convincing fashion? Thats what champions

    generally do.

    Why does Broner get another crack at a champion? Why does Broner get this payday? Because we accept it, that is why. Broner the uncouth individual who could not even shake Paulie’s hand, Broner the self appointed one, shoved down fans throats with the immortal words of big brother Floyd “love me hate me, you will pay to see me.�

    And that is the “problem� and not the problem with the “problem� Broner, that is the problem with boxing fans. We have given up so much power that we will pay to see a guy who has not proven jack in the ring because he has potential, connections and virtually for all purpose, the same self appointed

    status as a Charlie Z. We will let Arum tell us who we can watch fight, along with the other promoters�.We let boxing commissions censor fighters like Tyson Fury for telling the truth and if that is not enough? We let the British Boxing Commission almost stop the best heavyweight fight in years!

    We look at a young hard working fighter who is getting better every fight, like Derrick Chisora and call him a wife beater and thug�.yet endorse a truly morally reprehensible unworthy like Broner because he has tithed himself off the church of Floyd courtesy of the the electric kool aid and the hand

    extended by De La Hoya (a hand Floyd will perhaps never extend to Pacquiao).

    So where does it end with Broner? How many chances does he get? Is he the only guy in the middle divisions with talent? How far will his connections take him? How many threads and discussions will revolve around hoping that the judges are not corrupt enough to raise Broner’s hand unless it should

    be raised? When will boxing fans remember that paying to see this numbskull get a beat down is still paying him? Wanna pay Broner for that? Lets all pitch in a few bucks, get a pot together and have Kimbo and Broner go at it in a backyard somewhere�.winner take all.

    I only say this because I know Kimbo is equal to the task� I would never deny Kimbo, a guy who works hard, a payday. With all due respect Broner picked a great name. He is indeed a problem, he is in a word�.our problem.
    Dont follow Broner much but know some of the behind scenes...well written!

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      #3
      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
      Dont follow Broner much but know some of the behind scenes...well written!

      Thanks Juggy. People often dis Ward for keeping West of Las Vegas in Oakland...Broner is a perfect example of the wisdom of that position. He could be a good hometown hero for a town with a few fighters of note. I hope he decides to be that guy but don't see it happening.

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        #4
        I liked this even more than the other article I read because of the humor. It probably helps that I agree with every word.

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          #5
          Yea, look at the swine you are casting your pearls before. They come beating pots and pans, announcing Sugar Ray Robinson as an overrated scrub with a style similar to Kenny Norton, announcing slovenly behemoths as great heavyweights, announcing the style of Robinson as antiquated and ineffective.

          It is impossible for them to view the opening rounds of Lamotta VI and see that Ray's style is an exact template for both Ali and Leonard.

          There are a few around here upon whom you can always count to point the way with the back of their necks.

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            #6
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
            I liked this even more than the other article I read because of the humor. It probably helps that I agree with every word.
            yeah I hear you... Broner is swine as far as I am concerned. if boxing was done in cement encased shoes he might be equal to Robinson.

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              #7
              Nice article Bill, and the Tom Woolfe reference got a smile out of me.

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                #8
                Originally posted by escudo View Post
                Nice article Bill, and the Tom Woolfe reference got a smile out of me.
                Thanks Bro!

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