Jimmy Ellis: The forgotten Champ

[sonnyboyx2]

That wasnt the point ,i would or could respond any which way seemingly everything really does go over your head and i dont have to make you look like a fool you do it yourself without any help....

What you really mean is, you have no ****ing answer. you clown

[juggernaut666]

What you really mean is, you have no ****ing answer. you clown

About what you imbecile?

[billeau2]

You are talking night and day ,weight in boxing is more important because its a specific skill set ...MMA has more variables anyone telling me weight wouldn't be a major factor for 95 % of boxers in HW that were 200 pounders vs modern 230 plus ones would be a.... flag.

Your such a moron that your posts make no sense...you make an absurd statement and give no proof....like the first idiocy then you make absolutly no sense whatsoever....You have an agenda and are incapable of using reason....Man what an idiot!!

[billeau2]

It seems every now and then some imbecile comes along with an agenda stating that modern fighters are uncategorically bigger and better...some of these jackwads like Leroy have a laugh value....Juggy has no laugh value, but these idiots stain the walls of this section with BS.

[juggernaut666]

Your such a moron that your posts make no sense...you make an absurd statement and give no proof....like the first idiocy then you make absolutly no sense whatsoever....You have an agenda and are incapable of using reason....Man what an idiot!!

Being highly skilled in just one discipline needs no explaination of why weight becomes important more important when fighting heavier opponents....you imbecile.....and you called yourself a knowledgeable MMA/Boxer guy for how many years?

[billeau2]

Being highly skilled in just one discipline needs no explaination of why weight becomes important more important when fighting heavier opponents....you imbecile.....and you called yourself a knowledgeable MMA/Boxer guy for how many years?

It does when one assumes against all evidence to the contrary that weight is of primary importance... This idea is just flat out wrong whether one believes that modern fighters are superior or not. Think moron....is butterbean superior because of his weight? you assume that weight as an independent variable is a deal breaker... if you had the capacity to think you would see how ****** this is.

here are some names: Valuev, Fury, Price....all big guys who are not particularly strong punchers.... You ignore this type evidence and simply speak nonsense at every turn.

Let me try to explain this for the slow one more time: Just because Lewis and Vlad punch hard and happen to be big, does not make a correlation between size and weight.

Equally ridiculous is your assertion that in MMA because of the dimensions of the skills weight differention is cancelled....WHERE DO YOU GET NONSENSE LIKE THIS? Listen idiot could it be that fighters learning how to counter different strategies and becoming proficient in more skill sets make modern MMA fighters better? Gracie technique was originally designed to counter superior size....it wasn't always pretty but (watch Rorian's old fights) the techniques worked to take away strength from an opponent....but when these techniques were countered their original purpose made them relatively unevolved....thats simply a fact and if you do MMA you should know that.

You just have this ****** one track mind where you assume things without looking at them. Anyone around MMA for the last few years would tell you that the advantage of technique that is unfamiliar has gone away from the sport! Yes now and then new techniques appear, but the job of trainers is to teach fighters how to counter these developments.

[juggernaut666]

It does when one assumes against all evidence to the contrary that weight is of primary importance... This idea is just flat out wrong whether one believes that modern fighters are superior or not. Think moron....is butterbean superior because of his weight? you assume that weight as an independent variable is a deal breaker... if you had the capacity to think you would see how ****** this is.

here are some names: Valuev, Fury, Price....all big guys who are not particularly strong punchers.... You ignore this type evidence and simply speak nonsense at every turn.

Let me try to explain this for the slow one more time: Just because Lewis and Vlad punch hard and happen to be big, does not make a correlation between size and weight.

Equally ridiculous is your assertion that in MMA because of the dimensions of the skills weight differention is cancelled....WHERE DO YOU GET NONSENSE LIKE THIS? Listen idiot could it be that fighters learning how to counter different strategies and becoming proficient in more skill sets make modern MMA fighters better? Gracie technique was originally designed to counter superior size....it wasn't always pretty but (watch Rorian's old fights) the techniques worked to take away strength from an opponent....but when these techniques were countered their original purpose made them relatively unevolved....thats simply a fact and if you do MMA you should know that.

You just have this ****** one track mind where you assume things without looking at them. Anyone around MMA for the last few years would tell you that the advantage of technique that is unfamiliar has gone away from the sport! Yes now and then new techniques appear, but the job of trainers is to teach fighters how to counter these developments.

You talk out of your azz to try and win an argument...the simplicity of a one dimenscional sports is comedic...as stated being skilled in ONE aspect makes weight difference that much more credible and relecvant...ive been involved with MMA over 20 years you fool....look forward to your OFF topic "THE ONE YOU RAN FROM"....reply .....don't try and cvonfuse everyone ...stay with ther topic you idiot~

[billeau2]

You talk out of your azz to try and win an argument...the simplicity of a one dimenscional sports is comedic...as stated being skilled in ONE aspect makes weight difference that much more credible and relecvant...ive been involved with MMA over 20 years you fool....look forward to your OFF topic "THE ONE YOU RAN FROM"....reply .....don't try and cvonfuse everyone ...stay with ther topic you idiot~

leroy bot try to make your responses go together ok? i imagine you think boxing is one dimensional, your a fool. I don't care what you are involved in, your an idiot who cannot express a cogent thought....Let me try to explain something leroy bot: a little complexity and analysis is encouraged...you know something beyond the "duh your an azz who is comedic." Ok? give it a try loser oh wait...you can't because you are a dvmbazz never mind carry on.

[juggernaut666]

leroy bot try to make your responses go together ok? i imagine you think boxing is one dimensional, your a fool. I don't care what you are involved in, your an idiot who cannot express a cogent thought....Let me try to explain something leroy bot: a little complexity and analysis is encouraged...you know something beyond the "duh your an azz who is comedic." Ok? give it a try loser oh wait...you can't because you are a dvmbazz never mind carry on.

Nothing but jibberish not realted to the topic....you trained who in MMA???LMAO...been in the sport/involved over 20 years....you couldn't even put together a structured senrtance why boxing and MMA are different and where weight is more important in boxing ,because you don't have those skills or knowledge....LMAO....I DO!

[billeau2]

Nothing but jibberish not realted to the topic....you trained who in MMA???LMAO...been in the sport/involved over 20 years....you couldn't even put together a structured senrtance why boxing and MMA are different and where weight is more important in boxing ,because you don't have those skills or knowledge....LMAO....I DO!

ah aha ah!!! sorry juggy no go now heres a bot for a bot No I never said I trained for MMA I said I trained guys in MMA lugheads like you ya know?