Rocky Marciano's weight

[them_apples]

he often gets criticized for being a small heavyweight, regardless if he out muscled everyone he fought even when they out weighed him by a huge margin.

I was looking at his training regimen however, and he said he was naturally heavy boned and clumsy, so they did everything they could get his weight down and increase his agility. He never did weights because he would instantly build muscle way too fast (clearly a thoroughbred mesomorph). rocky would train for stamina and power, he would run 10-12 miles in hilly country and hit probably the biggest heavy-bag I've ever seen. considering the man when he retired ballooned up past 250+ You can definently say his training had a lot to do with his light weight.

come on, running 10-12 Miles as a heavyweight? that's absurd and it makes perfect sense he was 186 lbs in his prime. It also makes perfect sense the man had unlimited stamina and heart to keep going while taking punishment. It also makes perfect sense that he was sort of slow and relied on getting in close, since his training was very "stamina" oriented on breaking his opponents down over the long run.

If Mike Tyson was running 10-12 Miles every day you can't possibly say in hell he would have come in at 216 lbs, even Joe Frazier for that Matter, who went from 200-240 throughout his Career.

I've ranted about this before but boxing fans really need to look at the fighter themselves more so than the weight they are sitting at on the scale when it comes to strength and size.

[LacedUp]

Tyson did run 10 miles on the regular, and Marciano's post career weight had more to do with him getting obese than not training.

[them_apples]

Tyson did run 10 miles on the regular, and Marciano's post career weight had more to do with him getting obese than not training.

can you give me a link? I've never heard of mike running 10 miles on the regular. I've only known fighters in lower weight classes that put in the type of roadwork Rocky did. Diego Corrales, Marvin Hagler and the dude in my avatar.

and Obese? more like fat like a typical Chris Aereolla type heavyweight that we see nowadays.

[billeau2]

he often gets criticized for being a small heavyweight, regardless if he out muscled everyone he fought even when they out weighed him by a huge margin.

I was looking at his training regimen however, and he said he was naturally heavy boned and clumsy, so they did everything they could get his weight down and increase his agility. He never did weights because he would instantly build muscle way too fast (clearly a thoroughbred mesomorph). rocky would train for stamina and power, he would run 10-12 miles in hilly country and hit probably the biggest heavy-bag I've ever seen. considering the man when he retired ballooned up past 250+ You can definently say his training had a lot to do with his light weight.

come on, running 10-12 Miles as a heavyweight? that's absurd and it makes perfect sense he was 186 lbs in his prime. It also makes perfect sense the man had unlimited stamina and heart to keep going while taking punishment. It also makes perfect sense that he was sort of slow and relied on getting in close, since his training was very "stamina" oriented on breaking his opponents down over the long run.

If Mike Tyson was running 10-12 Miles every day you can't possibly say in hell he would have come in at 216 lbs, even Joe Frazier for that Matter, who went from 200-240 throughout his Career.

I've ranted about this before but boxing fans really need to look at the fighter themselves more so than the weight they are sitting at on the scale when it comes to strength and size.

Its that "cardio pump". I often try to exhaust and then keep going moderate...and it kicks ones derrier! Because fighters often do not have the long apprenticeship these days they often do work that teaches coordination, leverage and how to build useful muscle (the trunk area and legs). Guys like Rocky, even though often thought of as "rough cut" still had tremendous skills coming in. There are tapes of Marciano with commentary where one can see his sense of distance, timing, levarage etc. So these muscles were probably developed at a fairly early age.

First off the leverage changes from olympic boxing where guys are balanced fifty fifty and are expected to punch accurately. If you look at guys who are/were punchers the weight is usually coming fowards, to get the weight in the punch as opposed to half the weight....defensive guys usually had weight back with a false centerline, the real center hidden by the shoulder....And the muscles that make the olympic guys and others look so buff change to the trunk and legs since that is where useful power comes from.... So instead of squaring up like olympians, an orthodox fighter would get in trouble when even a relatively less balanced, explosive puncher was coming with weight fowards....think Mayorga against Forest.

Now what guys like Marciano realized is that when a human being exerts by really exhausting...running up a hill for example...you learn to recover and gradually over time the time it takes to recover takes less and less. Also gradually the body can do more in the interm, even when not pumping the activity up to the max. You habituate to this level of activity and it becomes natural. Deontey, who has a magnificant physique could seldom punch hard during his fight! compare that to a "small fry" like Dempsey who in between explosive codas of punches....was still always throwing punches in between. Think.....Lamont Brewster against Golata.... While Golata was struggling to get off a combo, Brewster was jabbing, and then he was attacking....The old timers fought that way much of the fight...So did guys like Frazier and Holyfield is another.

Some of the training stuff done today does in fact do this exertion. Really intense power type lifts, some explosive jumping exerscizes among others....
But guys like haye the Klitschkos, Aerreola, etc....never seem to go into high gear...and they seem unable to sustain even consistant moderate output.

I think in the old times the exerscize type was less important than the intensity and duration of the activity, which is how it should be. Try hitting a heavy bag non stop with full out intsnsity for 3 minutes.... The way one feels after that spurt, gives a sense of the will, skill and time it took to train for maximum intsnsity and then...to keep up moderate activity. I think that level of conditioning was what most fighters used to aspire to. Whether running hills, the bag, grappling the level of intensity is what matters and the Rock knew this no doubt.

[LacedUp]

can you give me a link? I've never heard of mike running 10 miles on the regular. I've only known fighters in lower weight classes that put in the type of roadwork Rocky did. Diego Corrales, Marvin Hagler and the dude in my avatar.

and Obese? more like fat like a typical Chris Aereolla type heavyweight that we see nowadays.

You can read it in his book like I did. Mike Tyson did an amazing amount of roadwork, it was kind of like Ali-esque. Cus D'amato was very tough on roadwork.

Well call it what you want to call it, but Marciano ate his way up to that weight. It wasn't like he kept that weight down by training etc. It was more him being lazy after he retired.

[them_apples]

You can read it in his book like I did. Mike Tyson did an amazing amount of roadwork, it was kind of like Ali-esque. Cus D'amato was very tough on roadwork.

Well call it what you want to call it, but Marciano ate his way up to that weight. It wasn't like he kept that weight down by training etc. It was more him being lazy after he retired.

Tyson never ran 10 miles on the regular. sorry. I've seen at least 20 excerpts of his training schedule and never once did it say he put in road work like that. not only that but his build pretty much solidifies that claim.

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