was dempsey a bum?

[Heckler]

Heart and Power? Rocky may be more powerful, but the difference would be minimal at the most. Dempsey had power in both hands and could use it more effectively. Its like the shavers vs foreman debate in regard to punching POWER, shavers had a huge right hand... but wasn't half as devestating in the ring as Foreman. Heart? equal Dempsey, Ali, Frazier, Marciano would all go until they could no longer walk. Tough Mofos.

[Da Iceman]

marciano had power in both hands so whats your point?

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Rocky was much stronger then Dempsey
but Dempsey had more skill as a boxer
Dempsey v Marciano would be a hard fight for both with Rocky koing Dempsey late
actually it really could either way but i lean towards marciano for the power and stamina he had

[butterfly1964]

Rocky was much stronger then Dempsey
but Dempsey had more skill as a boxer
Dempsey v Marciano would be a hard fight for both with Rocky koing Dempsey late
actually it really could either way but i lean towards marciano for the power and stamina he had

dempsey beat fighters in his career way easier than marciano did so how do you figure marciano was stronger? did marciano score 14second and 16second knockouts over top contenders? nope, so enough said.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

dempsey beat fighters in his career way easier than marciano did so how do you figure marciano was stronger? did marciano score 14second and 16second knockouts over top contenders? nope, so enough said.

Dempsey's era was almost as bleak as Marciano's
only reason dempsey's competition was alot more reveared then Marciano is because they had nothing to compare it too, no bar
professional boxing wasn't that old and these weree the best but then in the 40's they got better then in the 50's quality went down which led to the 60's and 70's which made some of the best fighters

just like today is bleak i think in the future there will be better boxers like in the 70's

so don't gimme that crap about 16 second ko's
Marciano was stronger
i'm not looking at how long it took, Marciano used heavier gloves then dempsey and did more damage then dempsey so that shows he was stronger

[butterfly1964]

Dempsey's era was almost as bleak as Marciano's
only reason dempsey's competition was alot more reveared then Marciano is because they had nothing to compare it too, no bar
professional boxing wasn't that old and these weree the best but then in the 40's they got better then in the 50's quality went down which led to the 60's and 70's which made some of the best fighters

just like today is bleak i think in the future there will be better boxers like in the 70's

so don't gimme that crap about 16 second ko's
Marciano was stronger
i'm not looking at how long it took, Marciano used heavier gloves then dempsey and did more damage then dempsey so that shows he was stronger

of course fighting bums like vingo, and savold yeah.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

wow
just wow the pure ignorrance

[habZ]

Dempsey fought from a crouch and would bounce up with power punches, he had skill. I remember reading in a book, Ray Arcel saying that when he first went to see Rocky at a gym, he had no skill at all but he had brute power.

[Heckler]

marciano had power in both hands so whats your point?

My point is Dempsey used both hands effectively, accurately, explosively, with speed and immense power. Marciano had an alright left but a great right, he was a bit sloppy and wasn't as precise or explosive as dempsey. Dempsey was more efficent with his punches. Give the nod to Marciano for stamina, but i cant call the match.

[Heckler]

Dempsey's era was almost as bleak as Marciano's
only reason dempsey's competition was alot more reveared then Marciano is because they had nothing to compare it too, no bar
professional boxing wasn't that old and these weree the best but then in the 40's they got better then in the 50's quality went down which led to the 60's and 70's which made some of the best fighters

just like today is bleak i think in the future there will be better boxers like in the 70's

so don't gimme that crap about 16 second ko's
Marciano was stronger
i'm not looking at how long it took, Marciano used heavier gloves then dempsey and did more damage then dempsey so that shows he was stronger

I think its naieve to suggest Marciano was WAY stronger then dempsey... stronger possibly but that much. Marciano did more damage then dempsey? thats debateable, have you seen what he did to Jess willard? and it is now proven that Dempsey wasn't using illegal means.