Who's greater: Larry Holmes or George Foreman?

[jas]

Cliff Rold had Holmes the 4th top all-time Heavyweight and Foreman 5th:

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Bert Sugar had Foreman as the 8th greatest Heavyweight in history and Holmes 10th:

[young_robbed]

I think I'd go with Holmes. They are very close to eachother though.

[GeneralZod]

I'd go Foreman as greater, but Holmes as the better talent.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Resume,, foreman clearly has better resume with better wins ie Frazier, Norton, moorer


But h2h I think Holmes is a nightmare for big George.. I think in the 70s, it would be a war with Holmes probably getting dropped but somehow lasting and taking a close decision..

In the 90s I think Larry would easily outpoint George, who was too stationary and would get eaten alive by the jab

[rightsideup]

interesting question I picked holmes because of number of successful defences but have no problem with someone picking George for quality of opposition.

[young_robbed]

Resume,, foreman clearly has better resume with better wins ie Frazier, Norton, moorer


But h2h I think Holmes is a nightmare for big George.. I think in the 70s, it would be a war with Holmes probably getting dropped but somehow lasting and taking a close decision..

In the 90s I think Larry would easily outpoint George, who was too stationary and would get eaten alive by the jab

Larry has some depth to his resume though. He's got Shavers, Norton (albeit worse version than the one Foreman fought), Snipes, Cooney, Berbick, Weaver, Smith, etc.

The argument you can make is that Larry ducked Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas. Those guys would've given Holmes tough fights because they both got good jabs and are well schooled. You can also say Holmes lost to Witherspoon and Carl Williams, I definitely think he did. Witherspoon neutralized his jab, Williams actually outjabbed him.

[MisterHardtop]

Larry Holmes was the better technical boxer, pure and simple. His jab was effective and dangerous, his footwork was precise and his punch selection exceptional, if not flashy. Holmes did just about everything well but none of it with the flair of the best guys in the 70s, which is why he was sometimes forgotten.

"Big" George Foreman was one of the divisions great physical specimens, containing dynamite in both fists and he had that imposing physical presence. I also hold that the conqueror of Frazier and Norton has the better overall rap sheet and the fact that he managed to win the heavyweight crown at 45 just enhances his legacy.

Foreman over Holmes...just about.

[jas]

I love Big George

[SBleeder]

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Foreman

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Larry has some depth to his resume though. He's got Shavers, Norton (albeit worse version than the one Foreman fought), Snipes, Cooney, Berbick, Weaver, Smith, etc.

The argument you can make is that Larry ducked Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas. Those guys would've given Holmes tough fights because they both got good jabs and are well schooled. You can also say Holmes lost to Witherspoon and Carl Williams, I definitely think he did. Witherspoon neutralized his jab, Williams actually outjabbed him.

Larry def has depth on his resume, no doubt about that.. But none of his wins are as impressive as the destruction of Frazier, and Norton...plus the moorer win is fantastic as well...