Camacho vs Cotto,, Better career and H2H

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Which one of these PR stars do you consider to have the better career...
and who wins a H2H fight


I think both guys are very good that just fell short against top level guys ie chavez, floyd, manny


please discuss

[soul_survivor]

Which one of these PR stars do you consider to have the better career...
and who wins a H2H fight


I think both guys are very good that just fell short against top level guys ie chavez, floyd, manny


please discuss

They have so many similarities in terms of career trajectory, great wins early on, some big wins too but ultimately losing to the best their generation had to offer.

in his prime, from 130-135, Camacho was damn fast, hit reasonably hard and was very hard to catch clean but technically he was inferior to Cotto, Cotto is a better all round boxer/puncher who can adapt well in the ring. As Camachos natural gifts faded, so did he, ala Naz or RJJ.

Cotto has been on the down slide of his career for a while now as his physical advantages have deteriorated but he has managed to stay competitive at the highest level due to his sound fundamentals.

Prime v Prime, who has it? It's hard to say. Camacho was never primed at 140 and if I'm not mistaken, Cotto didn't spend much time below 140 if any. At 140 Cotto is too big, too strong and he'll stop Camacho late.

[Scott9945]

Their careers are a topic you can debate. H2H, Cotto dominates him as he is the naturally bigger guy. Camacho is underrated for how good he was at 130. But at 140 and up he diminished considerably.

[SAN D13GO VILLAN]

This is an interesting question for my Boricuas, I wonder who THEY rank higher in Puerto rico? but then again Cotto is not finish with his carrer and if he was to beat Martinez it would be a no contest.

[billeau2]

Camacho was raised in my hood haha East Harlem.

Puerto Rican fighters are an interesting lot. I believe that the Cuban insitance on solid fundamentals has its effects on Puerto Rican boxing. I often lament about how my Borican and Dominican friends were all learning how to fight and often enough grandpa, or big brother would hold court on the technical aspects.... this was emphasized as opposed to the "just kick butt" school of New York fighting approaches. It took me until the ripe old age of 13 to appreciate this reliance on technique and call me silly but I always seem to find this tendency in Puerto Rican fighters.

Lets start answering this question with Trinidad. Surely when God made a puncher he put the right bread mix in with Felix! and Felix had no business getting talked into fighting Hopkins when his right gun could be avoided....But Trinidad had good fundamentals. Even Juan Ma before he got punch crazy had decent fundamentals...he used to really cut the ring off well and set up his punches.

So when we talk of Camacho, the illusion is that he was fast and careless. In fact Camacho was technically sound. Like Benitez Camacho's only foible was the puerto Rican tendency to want to dance the night away....and then some. And who could blame them? beautiful girls, great Salsa from the likes of Fuentes and palmali....Pastelles....If Camacho, Like Benitez had more discipline we would not be having this thread conversation....Camacho had power, instinct and speeeeeed in abundance.

Cotto is well rounded...yes well rounded. He is disciplined but not the natural talent that Camacho was. I actually believe that Mayweather and Cotto both are far more gifted mentally, and with technical, learned skills than most people think (particularly with Mayweather). Cotto had a great body attack but it was a learned skill and he just has become more well rounded.

Camacho is more like Judah. Gifted physically. At his best all things being equal Camacho had the potential to beat almost anyone at 130....bar none. THere are few and far between at the "midget" weights that have power along with speed and technique....Caamacho was one of those guys.

[ShoulderRoll]

Prime Camacho was better than Cotto. Blazing fast hands, beautiful combinations, and excellent footwork.

He was a special fighter that sadly didn't live up to his full potential.

[BennyST]

They have so many similarities in terms of career trajectory, great wins early on, some big wins too but ultimately losing to the best their generation had to offer.

in his prime, from 130-135, Camacho was damn fast, hit reasonably hard and was very hard to catch clean but technically he was inferior to Cotto, Cotto is a better all round boxer/puncher who can adapt well in the ring. As Camachos natural gifts faded, so did he, ala Naz or RJJ.

Cotto has been on the down slide of his career for a while now as his physical advantages have deteriorated but he has managed to stay competitive at the highest level due to his sound fundamentals.

Prime v Prime, who has it? It's hard to say. Camacho was never primed at 140 and if I'm not mistaken, Cotto didn't spend much time below 140 if any. At 140 Cotto is too big, too strong and he'll stop Camacho late.

Why do people always say Camacho will get stopped in fantasy fights? There is no way in hell Cotto stops Camacho.

[Scott9945]

Why do people always say Camacho will get stopped in fantasy fights? There is no way in hell Cotto stops Camacho.

He went the distance with in their prime Rosario, Chavez, Trinidad, and De La Hoya, so yeah, I agree.

[Ray Corso]

Macho wins at any weight! He is simply more talented than Cotto in every aspect of boxing! Macho could do well in any era because of his speed.
Cotto would have serious problems against boxing best at 147lbs. Even the BS junior weight classes he wouldn't have enough over all talent to contend!
In this current era of boxing he's done very well and I appreciate his efforts along with his skill level but he would be over matched against the greats!
He wouldn't be the top fifty of the welter class in my opinion. Ray

[SCtrojansbaby]

Camacho had the much better career and would dominate Cotto had to head