Wich boxing fights do you guys have?

[Yogi]

P.S. Greek, just in case you're curious, I am not the same Yogi from ESB.

[Dempsey1238]

I thought the Jeffies Ruhlan fight was clear,

When it is in movement of couse. The Gans Nelson fight is bad, But you can sort of tell whats happening when they move.

I have to add a more fights to the list .

You guys just stack up on 1980's fights and up.

I have to update my list though. As I have recorded fights on DVD, not listed.



I plan one daying starting on 1980's fight 2. one day, Thats if I stop getting my pre 1970's stuff of couse.

[Dempsey1238]

Jack Dempsey vs Gene Tunney 1926
Joe louis Vs Max Schmeling 1938
Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling 1938
Joe Louis vs Jim Braddock 1937
Joe Louis vs Max Baer 1935
Ezzard Charles Vs Jersey Joe Walcott 1951
Ezzard Charles vs Jersey Joe Walcott 1952
Jersey Joe Walcott vs Rocky Marciano 1952
Jersey Joe Walcott vs Rocky Marciano 1955
Jersey Joe Walcott vs Joe Louis 1947
Jersey Joe Walcott vs Joe Louis 1948
Stanley Ketchel (5'8 160 Pds) vs Jack Johnson (6'2 225 Pds)
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Jake Lamotta 1943
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Jake Lamotta 1943
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Jake Lamotta 1945
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Jake Lamotta 1945
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Jake Lamotta 1951
Sugar Ray Robinson vs Rocky Graziano 1952
Rocky Graziano vs Tony Zale 1946
Rocky Graziano vs Tony Zale 1947
Rocky Graziano vs Tony Zale 1948
Carlos Monzon vs Emile Griffith 1971
Carlos Monzon vs Emile Griffith 1972
Muhammad Ali vs Floyd Patterson 1965
Muhammad Ali vs Floyd Patterson 1972
Muhammad Ali vs Sonny Liston 1964
Muhammad Ali vs Sonny Liston 1965
Muhammed Ali vs Joe Frazier 1971
Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier 1974
Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier 1975
Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman 1974
Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton 1973
Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton 1973
Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton 1976
Muhammad Ali vs Leon Spinks 1978
Muhammad Ali vs Leon Spinks 1978
Muhammad Ali vs Larry Holmes 1980
Muhammad Ali vs Archie Moore 1962
Floyd Patterson vs Sonny liston 1962
Floyd Patterson vs Sonny Liston 1963

I have tons of new fights as well but these are the ones that i really like to see.


What do you think?

But the hardest thing to belive is, his claim of the Robinson Lamotta fights, I know the 1952 fight made it, but the other fights are lost or gone, or some guy has it for ransom.

I dont belive the first 2 fights were film.

I will also say Toney Rocky 1 and 2 are hard to belive 2.

[Yogi]

I thought the Jeffies Ruhlan fight was clear

I just took a peak at Jeffries/Ruhlin and yeah, you're right, as it is pretty clear up until just a few seconds before that photo you took. It does have some slight water/moisture damage throughout (upper-middle, mostly), but you can see the action pretty clearly up until about three or four seconds before that knockdown you posted.

[Dempsey1238]

not relly what I ment,

I mean as a film as old as that Jeffies fight, its pretty clear for its age.

That fight is in better shape than Dempsey Sharkey. OR Gans Nelson.

[Yogi]

I mean as a film as old as that Jeffies fight, its pretty clear for its age.

Oh for sure, man, and I think it's quite awesome that today we still have the opportunity to visually relive what happened in this sport from over 100 years ago.

[Dempsey1238]

Oh for sure, man, and I think it's quite awesome that today we still have the opportunity to visually relive what happened in this sport from over 100 years ago.

yeah for a few mins any way lol.
But I can go futher and have John L Sullivan hit the bag, or spar with Corbett. He was a OLD man of couse, when that was film, But you do see in him doing that mock sparing with Corbett, He was pretty good at feiting, and he may had a pretty sneaky right hand, it gives hints of what Sullivan must of been like in his prime. Maybe he was not the bar room brawler we heard of.

[Yogi]

yeah for a few mins any way lol.
But I can go futher and have John L Sullivan hit the bag, or spar with Corbett. He was a OLD man of couse, when that was film, But you do see in him doing that mock sparing with Corbett, He was pretty good at feiting, and he may had a pretty sneaky right hand, it gives hints of what Sullivan must of been like in his prime. Maybe he was not the bar room brawler we heard of.

You lucky bastard!

Yeah, I think there was much more to Sullivan than what is said nowadays by modern fans, and I think the Corbett title fight paints him in the completely wrong way...He was in his mid 30's by then, and was also pretty out of shape & fighting about ten to fifteen pounds over his best fighting weight, which some would tell you was around 195 or so. If you go back and look over the fight reports of his from earlier in his career (Brooklyn Daily Eagle has a bunch), you could see his skills were talked about in a much, much more positive light than what they were in the Corbett fight.

Just from what I've read, I view a prime Sullivan as a pretty quick fighter of both hand and foot, who could rely somewhat on the straight one-two combination. Also quite the powerful puncher who routinely threw exceptionally hard punches to the body with both hands. And like you say, there's descriptions of him feinting his opponents and out thinking them in some of his fights...I'd say he was much more of a multi-talented slugger, rather than just a pure straight forward & slow brawler than he's often labeled nowadays.

[TheEvilSaint]

my new fight and one of my favs is Adamek vs Briggs.

[Dempsey1238]

yeah Sullivan was shot.

Not relly what I judge on a PRIME Sullivan.

But out of the Corbett fight, I will do think Corbett, could complete today. Thats my view. He moves, and fights so much like Ali. He EVEN Glides just like Ali at times(The one time, he glide that I rember good, was a shot to the head, and a shot to the body going back vs Fitz.)

They both lean away from shots, and have no inside plan of cliching. Both have there hands dangling to there knees.

Now because it was film in 1897, I have a hard time with one thing, How fast is Corbett?? We cant relly tell on this.
The old timers called Corbett the fastest heavyweight on foot in the time.

And When Clay as he was called than,(Before he won the title) The old timers were comparing Ali's foot speed on the level of Corbett. So Corbett must have been pretty quick.

Corbett when in the clichs, Also TURN Fitz around and toss him on the inside to get out of the clichs. Ali held the back of the head.

There differnts sure of there styles. But they are ALMOST alike.

Ali of couse had the better chin than Corbett. But it has to take a HECK of a shot to knockout Corbett. Corbett did not have a glass chin.
But he can be knock out with a time hard shot, like Jeffies and Fitz prove.

I would not count the loses in the 1900's against Corbett, as he was in his 30's and pass his prime. And he lost his speed. Ali had the chin, when he lost his speed.