Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

If SRR won the LHW title

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    If SRR won the LHW title

    How much would that have added to Robinson's already incredible legacy? He'd of been the Welterweight, Middleweight, AND Light-Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    #2
    Goes without saying it wouldn't have hurt, but is difficult to see how much more Robinson could be held in esteem from fans, is pretty much universally acknowledged as the best ever already. However would guess a win over Maxim would put him beyond any debate because in the days of one belt per division and only eight divisions winning in three divisions was beyond rare, funnily enough it is one of the guys who acheived it in Armstrong who i figure has the best case to challenge Robinson for top spot all time.

    Should be added though if there is one caveat that Maxim is not one of the better light heavyweight champions ever, although that is nitpicking to some extent.

    Comment


      #3
      Originally posted by Rowley View Post
      Goes without saying it wouldn't have hurt, but is difficult to see how much more Robinson could be held in esteem from fans, is pretty much universally acknowledged as the best ever already. However would guess a win over Maxim would put him beyond any debate because in the days of one belt per division and only eight divisions winning in three divisions was beyond rare, funnily enough it is one of the guys who acheived it in Armstrong who i figure has the best case to challenge Robinson for top spot all time.

      Should be added though if there is one caveat that Maxim is not one of the better light heavyweight champions ever, although that is nitpicking to some extent.
      I believe in those days, it was rare for someone to win the title in two divisions, never mind THREE.

      Comment


        #4
        If he beat Maxim then chances are he fights Moore which isn't going to end nicely for him I imagine.

        Comment


          #5
          Sugarman was comfortably ahead in the fight (LtHvy Title)and on his way to the title. The ref dropped out I think in the 9th round and a "new" one was assigned, HA! Everyone knew he was stopped by the over 100 degree heat that everyone had to deal with. None the less it was a loss!!
          As for fighting a bout with Archie Moore, Moore would have an extremely difficult time landing on Sugar because Sugar would box him. The films everyone sees of Sugar is an agressive style that he used as he got older you don't see the pure boxer that he always had in his pocket. To campaign at 175 would actually be giving to much weight away but I believe he could match up with anyone at that weight at a given time. He would still be fight at 158 to 162 and still be as strong and undoubtly faster than any lightheavy.
          Once again the word great has very little meaning on this forum, Mayweather is considered a great fighter on this forum and he would stopped early if Sugar decided to end it!!! If not you would see Floyd as you've never seen him before. Oscar had him backing off and getting ready to be in trouble and then could maintain the pressure! Sugar Ray would walk through Mayweather, Robinson could be a vicious fighter at times. Visious has never been used to describe Floyd, he has below average power at 147 and has never been in with a puncher either! Definetely no one near Sugarmans skills.
          Theres a chance we'll never see or boxing will never see a fighter with the techniques, methods and power like Sugarman again.

          Imagine the LyHvies today dealing with him, what a joke that would be. You just saw the title holder get man handled by a 165-68 fighter! Remember that Sugar is a shade under 5'11" and at 162 is as big with steps and reach with superior speed than anyone out there today! Add in all the junior/super division and he could be the 47/54/60/68/75 pound champ, easily!!! Ray
          Last edited by Ray Corso; 11-03-2012, 12:45 PM.

          Comment


            #6
            Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
            Sugarman was comfortably ahead in the fight (LtHvy Title)and on his way to the title. The ref dropped out I think in the 9th round and a "new" one was assigned, HA! Everyone knew he was stopped by the over 100 degree heat that everyone had to deal with. None the less it was a loss!!
            As for fighting a bout with Archie Moore, Moore would have an extremely difficult time landing on Sugar because Sugar would box him. The films everyone sees of Sugar is an agressive style that he used as he got older you don't see the pure boxer that he always had in his pocket. To campaign at 175 would actually be giving to much weight away but I believe he could match up with anyone at that weight at a given time. He would still be fight at 158 to 162 and still be as strong and undoubtly faster than any lightheavy.
            Once again the word great has very little meaning on this forum, Mayweather is considered a great fighter on this forum and he would stopped early if Sugar decided to end it!!! If not you would see Floyd as you've never seen him before. Oscar had him backing off and in getting ready to be in trouble then stopped!! Sugar Ray would walk through Mayweather, Robinson could be a vicious fighter at times. Visious has never been used to describe Floyd, he has below average power at 147 and has never been in with a puncher either!
            Theres a chance we'll never see or boxing will never see a fighter with the techniques, methods and power like Sugarman again.

            Imagine the LyHvies today dealing with him, what a joke that would be. You just saw the title holder get man handled by a 165-68 fighter! Remember that Sugar is a shade under 5'11" and at 162 is as big with steps and reach with superior speed than anyone out there today! Add in all the junior/super division and he could be the 47/54/60/68/75 pound champ, easily!!! Ray
            You think a past it Robinson is going to beat a prime Archie Moore ?, expand please, or do you just think Moore's going to have a hard time hitting him in which case the same can be said for Moore who wasn't exactly the easiest boxer to hit, at the point in time Moore beats him, can't see it any other way. Maybe even stops him, he's giving up too much size too someone with scary power.

            Once again the word great has very little meaning on this forum, Mayweather is considered a great fighter on this forum and he would stopped early if Sugar decided to end it!!! If not you would see Floyd as you've never seen him before. Oscar had him backing off and in getting ready to be in trouble then stopped!! Sugar Ray would walk through Mayweather, Robinson could be a vicious fighter at times. Visious has never been used to describe Floyd, he has below average power at 147 and has never been in with a puncher either!
            Theres a chance we'll never see or boxing will never see a fighter with the techniques, methods and power like Sugarman again.
            This has absolutely ****ing nothing to do with the thread, why even bring it up ?.

            Andre Ward has the talent / savvy / skill to give anyone in history trouble, that includes Robinson, he isn't just your "average 165-168" boxer.

            Mayweather is great, no question, just because someone can't beat Robinson in a fantasy fight doesn't mean he isn't great, how many people do you have beating Robinson ?, or is he the only great too you ?. When exactly did Oscar have Floyd on the path too getting stopped ? .

            Show me a boxer that 100% beats Floyd in his prime a 130 and I'll show you a bias old man whose full of ****.
            Last edited by NChristo; 11-03-2012, 01:04 PM.

            Comment


              #7
              Then I would put him #1, because I usually have Armstrong edging him just a bit.

              Comment


                #8
                Prime Robinson can box with Prime Moore, Moore has more body volumn thats his size advantage. Most all fighters will give way to Moores expereince but in this case Sugarman equals it and actually surpasses it!
                This is my opinion and if you don't agree thats fine, teres no reason to call other members here full of !!!! just disagree and leave it at that.
                The reference to Mayweather was the an example of how the word GREAT is over used here! If Mayweather is a GREAT boxer whats Sugar Ray Robinson??

                If you think that Andre Ward is capable of winning over Sugarman you really need to put some time into learning techniques and how methods are applied. I like Ward but he doesn't have the skills or the experience to deal with the likes of Sugar!
                I'm not going to waste my time answer anyone who quotes my opinions and insults me or anyone else. I didn't challenge anyone elses opinion on just commented on a comment about Moore possibly "stopping" Sugar!

                Eeryone has their own opinions but remember that opinions need to based on something and a great reference would be "experiences"! Ray.

                Comment


                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
                  Sugarman was comfortably ahead in the fight (LtHvy Title)and on his way to the title. The ref dropped out I think in the 9th round and a "new" one was assigned, HA! Everyone knew he was stopped by the over 100 degree heat that everyone had to deal with. None the less it was a loss!!
                  As for fighting a bout with Archie Moore, Moore would have an extremely difficult time landing on Sugar because Sugar would box him. The films everyone sees of Sugar is an agressive style that he used as he got older you don't see the pure boxer that he always had in his pocket. To campaign at 175 would actually be giving to much weight away but I believe he could match up with anyone at that weight at a given time. He would still be fight at 158 to 162 and still be as strong and undoubtly faster than any lightheavy.
                  Once again the word great has very little meaning on this forum, Mayweather is considered a great fighter on this forum and he would stopped early if Sugar decided to end it!!! If not you would see Floyd as you've never seen him before. Oscar had him backing off and getting ready to be in trouble and then could maintain the pressure! Sugar Ray would walk through Mayweather, Robinson could be a vicious fighter at times. Visious has never been used to describe Floyd, he has below average power at 147 and has never been in with a puncher either! Definetely no one near Sugarmans skills.
                  Theres a chance we'll never see or boxing will never see a fighter with the techniques, methods and power like Sugarman again.

                  Imagine the LyHvies today dealing with him, what a joke that would be. You just saw the title holder get man handled by a 165-68 fighter! Remember that Sugar is a shade under 5'11" and at 162 is as big with steps and reach with superior speed than anyone out there today! Add in all the junior/super division and he could be the 47/54/60/68/75 pound champ, easily!!! Ray

                  The lightheavies of today weigh in the day before the fight and are a LOT bigger than Joey Maxim when they step into the ring.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    arguably the GOAT to definately the GOAT

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X
                    TOP