1B: Boxingscene's Mythbusters

[StarshipTrooper]

theres just no better word for it than 'style'.

How about "abilities"? Why the reluctance to say fighter A has better abilities than fighter B?

If they were all at their best, it would still go Barrera beats Morales, Pacquiao beats Barrera, Morales beats Pacquiao.

And we know this how? One could just as easily say Barrera had noticably slipped before he ever fought Pacquiao.

Poet

[Steak]

How about "abilities"? Why the reluctance to say fighter A has better abilities than fighter B?



And we know this how? One could just as easily say Barrera had noticably slipped before he ever fought Pacquiao.

Poet

because 'abilities' doesnt effectively describe the relationship between one fighters qualities and anothers. regardless, when I or others say 'styles', we always are including physical factors. thats why people will mention 'styles make fights' and include factors such as stamina, punching power and chin.

[StarshipTrooper]

because 'abilities' doesnt effectively describe the relationship between one fighters qualities and anothers. regardless, when I or others say 'styles', we always are including physical factors. thats why people will mention 'styles make fights' and include factors such as stamina, punching power and chin.

I would suggest then that they take a remedial course in English 101 since their grasp of the language is sorely lacking. Either that or pick up a flipping dictionary once in a while.....Oh, and when someone like Manny Steward is talking about "styles" he isn't talking about a fighter's physical abilities and talents. He's talking about their style of fighting.

Poet

[Steak]

I would suggest then that they take a remedial course in English 101 since their grasp of the language is sorely lacking. Either that or pick up a flipping dictionary once in a while.....Oh, and when someone like Manny Steward is talking about "styles" he isn't talking about a fighter's physical abilities and talents. He's talking about their style of fighting.

Poet

A fighters style is created and heavily influenced by their physical attributes. you cant divide the two. trying to describe Roy Jones' style without touching on his speed and reflexes is simply impossible.

[Walt Liquor]

"you have to convincingly" beat the champ to take his belt"

actually you don't, you just have to score one more point than him...

[StarshipTrooper]

A fighters style is created and heavily influenced by their physical attributes. you cant divide the two. trying to describe Roy Jones' style without touching on his speed and reflexes is simply impossible.

People do that with Jones all the time. A fighter may fight a certain way because of his physical traits but in the end they're still two different things. Not every fighter is locked into fighting a certain way like someone, say, with short arms and a stocky build is locked into being a swarming pressure fighter as his physical limitations dictates that's the only way he CAN fight and be successful.

If you're (and I don't mean "you" as in you in particular, but rather "you" in the generic sense) are trying to jumble all the things that make up a fighter into one amorphous package and call it "style" then it's not only inaccurate but lacks any kind of precision as well.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

"you have to convincingly" beat the champ to take his belt"

actually you don't, you just have to score one more point than him...

I agree, but try telling that to the judges who give every close round to the Champion automatically.

Poet

[THE REED]

The style in which a boxer fights and the physical attributes that fighter carries are two separate things.

When I talk about Roys style, Im talking about him holding out his right hand to block the jab and counter with his hook... not the size of his calf muscles or the power he carried in his torso.

[Walt Liquor]

I agree, but try telling that to the judges who give every close round to the Champion automatically.

Poet

depends on who the challenger is a lot of times and where the fight is...

[StarshipTrooper]

depends on who the challenger is a lot of times and where the fight is...

This is assuming, of course, that this isn't a home town fight and the challenger isn't the cable network's favorite son

Poet