Jack Dempsey vs Lennox Lewis.

[Canes Ghost]

No disrespect to Dempsey but I think of all the old timers Lewis has a better chance of victory against Dempsey than he does against Tunney, Johnson or Louis.

Stylewise Dempsey is made for Lewis, that's not to say the fight is a forgone conclusion but I think if Dempsey hasn't got Lewis out of there in the first few rounds then I see Lewis the more likely winner.

[CarlosG815]

No disrespect to Dempsey but I think of all the old timers Lewis has a better chance of victory against Dempsey than he does against Tunney, Johnson or Louis.

Stylewise Dempsey is made for Lewis, that's not to say the fight is a forgone conclusion but I think if Dempsey hasn't got Lewis out of there in the first few rounds then I see Lewis the more likely winner.

uhhh, stylewise Jack is Lennox worst nightmare. When did Lennox ever fight a guy with great footwork, bobbing and weaving, high pressure, tons of speed and power with ton of aggression? McCall was none of those things but was able to land one punch in the 2nd round to put Lennox to sleep, yet you think Dempsey is tailor made for Lewis? Lennox is tailor made for Dempsey.

[Canes Ghost]

uhhh, stylewise Jack is Lennox worst nightmare. When did Lennox ever fight a guy with great footwork, bobbing and weaving, high pressure, tons of speed and power with ton of aggression? McCall was none of those things but was able to land one punch in the 2nd round to put Lennox to sleep, yet you think Dempsey is tailor made for Lewis? Lennox is tailor made for Dempsey.

If Lennox stands his ground then yes I agree Dempsey could well walk straight through him. I assume you are taking each fighter in their prime and if you are then Dempsey is not fighting the clumsy amatuer that lost to McCall or the version that fought Rahman.

Lewis has enough ring generalship,speed,footwork,strength,power,accuracy and defense to keep Dempsey at bay. I see Lewis getting hit and maybe even hurt in this fight but not often enough for Dempsey to win.

Look at a fight objectively regardless of whether you like a fighter or not. Don't go down the sonnyboy route and use triangular logic to predict the outcome of a matchup.

And just because you love a fighter and his style appeals to you (i know you love Tyson and Dempsey) and you have every right to love them, just don't put them up on pedestals. These are all great fighters we are talking about and they all are only human so let's stop the nuthugging and bull**** predictions (PRIME TYSON KO1 LENNOX LEWIS FACT) not aimed directly at you but at the irritating posts I frequently see in what is supposed to be filled with genuine fans of the history of the sport and not haters and nuthuggers.

[Hitman Hodgson]

uhhh, stylewise Jack is Lennox worst nightmare. When did Lennox ever fight a guy with great footwork, bobbing and weaving, high pressure, tons of speed and power with ton of aggression? McCall was none of those things but was able to land one punch in the 2nd round to put Lennox to sleep, yet you think Dempsey is tailor made for Lewis? Lennox is tailor made for Dempsey.

Mike Tyson?

And to be fair, I think the McCall stoppage was very premiture.

[Wild Blue Yonda]

Its not possible for Lennox to lose a decision. He never lost one in his entire career despite fighting in the bias United States most of the time.

Lennox wins 7/10 against Dempsey and 10/10 in rematches.

Lennox has a win over his top 4 contemporaries in (Klitschko, Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield) Dempsey doesnt have a win over any of his contemporaries in (Wills, Tunney, Johnson, Langford)

You're not too familiar with your history, I see. Lewis & Bowe never fought as pros, & Dempsey wasn't a contemporary to either Johnson or Langford.

[Hitman Hodgson]

You're not too familiar with your history, I see. Lewis & Bowe never fought as pros, & Dempsey wasn't a contemporary to either Johnson or Langford.

Since when did facts have anything to do with anything on here??

Seriously though, the fact that Bowe his WBC title in the trash instead of facing Lewis leads me to believe what the outcome of that fight would have been. But we'll never really know.

[Wild Blue Yonda]

^^^Which is why Lewis doesn't get the legacy points there. The fight never happened, so it counts for nought.

[CarlosG815]

Mike Tyson?

And to be fair, I think the McCall stoppage was very premiture.

Fat and in the worst fight shape of his career, shot and drugged up. Tyson was in no condition to fight anybody yet he still was able to give Lennox some problems for 8 rounds. A good fighter would have gotten Tyson out of there in a hurry, as Danny Williams and Kevin McBride fought the same version of Tyson - a shot one.

And the McCall stoppage was premature? It's clear to me from this post and another you made in another thread that you don't follow boxing and you comment on fights without having watched them. I had that su****ion from your last post, but this one confirms it. Lennox was glossy eyed, stumbled from side to side and had the ref not been there to catch him he would have faceplanted into the mat, just as Berbick did against Tyson. His legs were gone and his mind was dazed. If you think that was premature then I can only imagine that you are saying that simply because you have read an article by a Lennox apologist and you are reciting it as bible. The stoppage was justified as Lennox could not stand up on his own 2 feet. Give me a break with that conspiracy crap. Just because Lennox can't accept defeat and admit that he lost fairly doesn't mean you have to make excuses for him also.

[CarlosG815]

If Lennox stands his ground then yes I agree Dempsey could well walk straight through him. I assume you are taking each fighter in their prime and if you are then Dempsey is not fighting the clumsy amatuer that lost to McCall or the version that fought Rahman.

Lewis has enough ring generalship,speed,footwork,strength,power,accuracy and defense to keep Dempsey at bay. I see Lewis getting hit and maybe even hurt in this fight but not often enough for Dempsey to win.

Look at a fight objectively regardless of whether you like a fighter or not. Don't go down the sonnyboy route and use triangular logic to predict the outcome of a matchup.

And just because you love a fighter and his style appeals to you (i know you love Tyson and Dempsey) and you have every right to love them, just don't put them up on pedestals. These are all great fighters we are talking about and they all are only human so let's stop the nuthugging and bull**** predictions (PRIME TYSON KO1 LENNOX LEWIS FACT) not aimed directly at you but at the irritating posts I frequently see in what is supposed to be filled with genuine fans of the history of the sport and not haters and nuthuggers.

Lennox may be somewhat accurate with a bit of power but he doesn't have speed when compared to Dempsey, and he has never had good footwork. Lennox has always just been an average boxer in my eyes.

I nor Sonny use triangular logic. Sonny is like me in the sense that he uses what he sees a fighter do in the ring do make his own determination. You want to look at Lennox resume of washups and D rated fighters and say "He beat everyone he ever faced" yet ignore the facts that when you watch him he just isn't very good. I'm not the best basketball player in the world, but if you match me up with the right people I could go undefeated. I'm not a great boxer but if you match me up with bums, I would walk through them.

Lennox never fought a top contender who was prime - that is a fact and it is usually only detested by Brits/Canadians/Europeans and Lennox apologists.

Lennox was put to sleep in the 2nd round by Oliver McCall. He is the only fighter believed by many to be "great" who was put to sleep so convincingly and so early in a fight by a single punch. This is a fact. I started a thread on it and with many replies, he was the only one - FACT.

I have no respect for Lewis as a fighter because of these facts (and other things I believe, but I won't list them as facts because they can be debated. What I have listed above can not even be debated.), and I have no respect for him as a person for his lack of sportsmanship after losing and how he continues to complain and put down and disrespect other fights, even to this day. He is everything you hate to see in a retired boxer.

Still, I don't factor these things when I think about fantasy matchups. I look at Lewis' terrible footwork, his lack of defense, and his glass jaw and I can easily determine that a fast, strong, good moving fighter with a ton of power and great footwork like Jack Dempsey would have zero problems with the big and slow glass jawed Lennox Lewis.

For you to believe that I am saying this simply because I dislike Lennox and like Dempsey is unfounded. Many that follow boxing and know history would agree with me that Dempsey would make light work of Lennox, yet you accuse me of being bias, yet you wouldn't accuse anybody else. Just because I have Dempsey in my top 5 in my sig? Come on man.

You can't honestly watch film on Dempsey destroying men then watch Lennox struggle and get KO'd by journeyman and sparring partners and say my case is simply based on bias.

[Jim Jeffries]

If Lennox stands his ground then yes I agree Dempsey could well walk straight through him. I assume you are taking each fighter in their prime and if you are then Dempsey is not fighting the clumsy amatuer that lost to McCall or the version that fought Rahman.

Lewis has enough ring generalship,speed,footwork,strength,power,accuracy and defense to keep Dempsey at bay. I see Lewis getting hit and maybe even hurt in this fight but not often enough for Dempsey to win.

Look at a fight objectively regardless of whether you like a fighter or not. Don't go down the sonnyboy route and use triangular logic to predict the outcome of a matchup.

And just because you love a fighter and his style appeals to you (i know you love Tyson and Dempsey) and you have every right to love them, just don't put them up on pedestals. These are all great fighters we are talking about and they all are only human so let's stop the nuthugging and bull**** predictions (PRIME TYSON KO1 LENNOX LEWIS FACT) not aimed directly at you but at the irritating posts I frequently see in what is supposed to be filled with genuine fans of the history of the sport and not haters and nuthuggers.

So just to be clear, not the 29 year old "amateur" that fought McCall (extensive amateur background, gold medalist, 24 fights as a pro, including wins over Bruno, Tucker and Ruddock) or the 35 year old, (40 fight veteran after adding his best wins,) that fought Rahman the first time?