Old Timer vs Modern

[sonnyboyx2]

Like everyone else who regular post in the History section i have a love for the fighters from the early half of the last century, but how would they fare against modern greats in a head2head match up of the 8 weight classes, so thought i would throw a few hypothetical fights at you to see what your opinions are with all fighters being at their ultimate prime in 15rd bouts fought at Madison Square Garden with referee for all bouts Arthur Mercante :

Marvin Hagler vs Harry Greb - 160lbs
Bob Foster vs Sam Langford - 175lbs
Jack Johnson vs Lennox Lewis - 200lbs+
Willie Pep vs Manny Pacquiao - 126lbs
Ray Leonard vs Henry Armstrong - 147lbs
Ricardo Lopez vs Jimmy Wilde - 105lbs
Panama Al Brown vs Eder Jofre - 118lbs
Benny Leonard vs Roberto Duran - 135lbs

Lets Get Ready To Rumble............

[JAB5239]

Like everyone else who regular post in the History section i have a love for the fighters from the early half of the last century, but how would they fare against modern greats in a head2head match up of the 8 weight classes, so thought i would throw a few hypothetical fights at you to see what your opinions are with all fighters being at their ultimate prime in 15rd bouts fought at Madison Square Garden with referee for all bouts Arthur Mercante :

Marvin Hagler vs Harry Greb - 160lbs

Bob Foster vs Sam Langford - 175lbs

Langford ko5

Jack Johnson vs Lennox Lewis - 200lbs+

Lewis UD

Willie Pep vs Manny Pacquiao - 126lbs

Pep UD

Ray Leonard vs Henry Armstrong - 147lbs

Leonard UD

Ricardo Lopez vs Jimmy Wilde - 105lbs
Panama Al Brown vs Eder Jofre - 118lbs
Benny Leonard vs Roberto Duran - 135lbs

Lets Get Ready To Rumble............

The ones I didn't call I either see as to close to pick or have not seen enough of to make an educated opinion.

[Barn]

Like everyone else who regular post in the History section i have a love for the fighters from the early half of the last century, but how would they fare against modern greats in a head2head match up of the 8 weight classes, so thought i would throw a few hypothetical fights at you to see what your opinions are with all fighters being at their ultimate prime in 15rd bouts fought at Madison Square Garden with referee for all bouts Arthur Mercante :

Marvin Hagler vs Harry Greb - 160lbs
Bob Foster vs Sam Langford - 175lbs
Jack Johnson vs Lennox Lewis - 200lbs+
Willie Pep vs Manny Pacquiao - 126lbs
Ray Leonard vs Henry Armstrong - 147lbs
Ricardo Lopez vs Jimmy Wilde - 105lbs
Panama Al Brown vs Eder Jofre - 118lbs
Benny Leonard vs Roberto Duran - 135lbs

Lets Get Ready To Rumble............

Marvin Hagler - Razor Thin UD.
Sam Langford KO.
Jack Johnson TKO8
Pep UD
Can't Split
Wilde UD
Jofre UD
Can't Split

[CarlosG815]

Like everyone else who regular post in the History section i have a love for the fighters from the early half of the last century, but how would they fare against modern greats in a head2head match up of the 8 weight classes, so thought i would throw a few hypothetical fights at you to see what your opinions are with all fighters being at their ultimate prime in 15rd bouts fought at Madison Square Garden with referee for all bouts Arthur Mercante :

Marvin Hagler vs Harry Greb - 160lbs
Bob Foster vs Sam Langford - 175lbs
Jack Johnson vs Lennox Lewis - 200lbs+
Willie Pep vs Manny Pacquiao - 126lbs
Ray Leonard vs Henry Armstrong - 147lbs
Ricardo Lopez vs Jimmy Wilde - 105lbs
Panama Al Brown vs Eder Jofre - 118lbs
Benny Leonard vs Roberto Duran - 135lbs

Lets Get Ready To Rumble............

Hagler
Foster
Pep
Armstrong
Lopez
Brown
Leonard

[NChristo]

Marvin Hagler vs Harry Greb - 160lbs
Don't want to say, lack of footage for Greb can't really make a guess.

Bob Foster vs Sam Langford - 175lbs
Same as above but of Langford.

Willie Pep vs Manny Pacquiao - 126lbs
Pep via points

Ray Leonard vs Henry Armstrong - 147lbs
Ray Leonard on points depending on if he fights smart, could see it going either way though really.

Ricardo Lopez vs Jimmy Wilde - 105lbs
Lopez on points.

Panama Al Brown vs Eder Jofre - 118lbs
Jofre on points, Brown is certainly very talented but imo Jofre was just overall a better boxer, his defense was just as good, his offense was better and I don't really think Brown's height advantage would be that much of a factor here and his power isn't enough to hurt him, Jofre's ring smarts and offensive arsenal should get him a decision (Don't see Jofre knocking him out).

(Don't see how this fight is Modern vs Old Timer, still good match up though)

[BennyST]

fixed for ya,champ.

I think that might be the smartest post I've seen here recently. Some serious cogitating must have gone into that reply therefore I commend thee for helping out this section and showing a wisdom that I'm sure equates to your own sense of worth and how highly you think of yourself.

Hagler
Foster
Pep
Armstrong
Lopez
Brown
Leonard

Missed one mate. Lewis and Johnson.

Hmmm, difficult though. It would have to be;
Greb
Langford
Lewis
Pep
Leonard
Lopez
Jofre
Draw...ie. dunno.

I find the last one easily the most difficult to pick between and would probably choose differently every day I thought about it. That's the hardest one I think and probably the best fight overall.

Jofre/Brown was also difficult, but I finally went with the Robinson like Jofre with his overall boxer/puncher style and skill.

[BennyST]

[QUOTE=NChristo;9856304]Marvin Hagler vs Harry Greb - 160lbs
Don't want to say, lack of footage for Greb can't really make a guess.

Bob Foster vs Sam Langford - 175lbs
Same as above but of Langford.

Willie Pep vs Manny Pacquiao - 126lbs
Pep via points

Ray Leonard vs Henry Armstrong - 147lbs
Ray Leonard on points depending on if he fights smart, could see it going either way though really.

Ricardo Lopez vs Jimmy Wilde - 105lbs
Lopez on points.

Panama Al Brown vs Eder Jofre - 118lbs
Jofre on points, Brown is certainly very talented but imo Jofre was just overall a better boxer, his defense was just as good, his offense was better and I don't really think Brown's height advantage would be that much of a factor here and his power isn't enough to hurt him, Jofre's ring smarts and offensive arsenal should get him a decision (Don't see Jofre knocking him out).

(Don't see how this fight is Modern vs Old Timer, still good match up though)[/QUOTE]

Indeed. I find myself a bit confused with the 'modern' and 'old school'/'ancient'/ 'unscientific ******s with no skill at all' kind of thing. Meh...

[sonnyboyx2]

[QUOTE=BennyST;9856383]

Marvin Hagler vs Harry Greb - 160lbs
Don't want to say, lack of footage for Greb can't really make a guess.

Bob Foster vs Sam Langford - 175lbs
Same as above but of Langford.

Willie Pep vs Manny Pacquiao - 126lbs
Pep via points

Ray Leonard vs Henry Armstrong - 147lbs
Ray Leonard on points depending on if he fights smart, could see it going either way though really.

Ricardo Lopez vs Jimmy Wilde - 105lbs
Lopez on points.

Panama Al Brown vs Eder Jofre - 118lbs
Jofre on points, Brown is certainly very talented but imo Jofre was just overall a better boxer, his defense was just as good, his offense was better and I don't really think Brown's height advantage would be that much of a factor here and his power isn't enough to hurt him, Jofre's ring smarts and offensive arsenal should get him a decision (Don't see Jofre knocking him out).

(Don't see how this fight is Modern vs Old Timer, still good match up though)[/QUOTE]

Indeed. I find myself a bit confused with the 'modern' and 'old school'/'ancient'/ 'unscientific ******s with no skill at all' kind of thing. Meh...

at least half a century between each fighters era

[NChristo]

at least half a century between each fighters era

There's only 14 or so years between the end of Brown's career and start of Jofre's, see what you mean though.

Who do you think takes these fights ?.

[sonnyboyx2]

There's only 14 or so years between the end of Brown's career and start of Jofre's, see what you mean though.

Who do you think takes these fights ?.

oh ok.. i will take Brown out of the equation and start all over again for you in the morning and add Terry McGovern, Pete Herman or George Dixon and will make sure that there is at least 100yrs between each fighter's career and that fights are fought over 45 rounds out-doors, 5oz horse hair gloves, no turn-buckle and draw the color line. ok