gotta love joe frazier

[mokele]

great inside fight

Tua weighs about 220 lbs in shape so no I would not say it's a valid comparison. Also in saying Frazier was a swarmer you are oversimplifying things. Yes he came straight forward but he did so while feinting and bobbing and weaving. His reflexes were better than Tua's. He was right in front of you, and he did take the ocassional hard punch, but he was not a sitting target. He went through Chuvalo and cut him up bad. Chuvalo was taller and even sturdier than Tua as well as a better boxer. I'm not saying it's a sure thing that Frazier takes him out, but he would be the favorite.

If somehow we could move Frazier and Tua around in time and put them in against each other in the heart of their prime, I say that Frazier wins a close decision by outworking Tua and by using superior conditioning. It would have been 1 of the greatest inside battles of all time, with both men working in close 1 round after another with little if any clinching until late in the fight when both fighters were a bit tired. It would have been a heavyweight version of Corrales-Castillo 1.

I say that Frazier won most of the early rounds by landing more punches but that the tank-like Tua starts to come on late and even backs up Frazier, who actually starts to box late in the fight.

These are 2 of my all-time favorites, compact inside fighters with great left hooks, so I don't know who I would root for. Frazier is perhaps the greater fighter, all things considered, but Tua is a special type of fighter who would have stood a decent chance against any of the great heavyweight punchers in history. Only the all-time great boxers would in all likelihood have made Tua look less than great, guys like Ali, Jack Johnson, maybe Tunney and Larry Holmes. Maybe even a crafty guy like Jimmy Young would have frustrated Tua, sticking, moving and clinching on the inside. It's really hard to say.

[butterfly1964]

frazier would definetely beat tua.

[butterfly1964]

uh, guys?
frazier beat ali.

the guy beat ali.

a - ****in - li!

ok? and we're debating how he'd do against tua?

david tua... lol.
cmon now, this is borderline disrespectful...

too much is made about tua's size.
yeah, he's solid, but he's no taller than frazier
so he's not gonna sit back and pop him like foreman did.
and he got plenty of fat on him whereas frazier was
205 of muscle.
plus, as kid mentioned, frazier did tons of upper body movement.
no one's evered swarmed tua the way frazier would.
i think the fight would last as long as tua/his corner
want to get pounded for and that's about it.
there's plenty of big, strong, hard punchers out there,
but this is joe frazier...

for all this bull**** people talk about tua, tell me,
what belts does he have? what belts has he ever had?
there's a reason he's got none, never been a champ.
he's strong, never been knocked down, blah, blah, blah.
he got no belts. theres a reason for that.

btw, did i mention that frazier beat ali?

great post! good k.

[Piggu]

YAY FRAZIER!!!!!!

I was gonna put Joe in my avatar, but I screwed up and put in Lennox.

[Da Iceman]

great post! good k.

your encouriging people to hype up ali's opponents catipillar.

[butterfly1964]

your encouriging people to hype up ali's opponents catipillar.

no i'm not. i just thought it was a very good post, don't you?

[Da Iceman]

decent. not deserving of any k.

[butterfly1964]

decent. not deserving of any k.

not in your eyes.

[Da Iceman]

i got 20 20 vision.

[butterfly1964]

Joe Frazier vs. Jerry Quarry I - 1969