Pryor's Arguello (I) beats prime Kostya: Agree or Disagree?

[rsf]

I'd take arguello to win

[Gatling]

I despise Pryor but he beats Kostya. But so do a lot of others.

[Rspen46]

If anyone at JWW is viewed on 2 or 3 fights & overrated, it's Aaron Pryor, & I'm from Cincinnati, & I saw every single pro fight he had but 2, & 80% of his Amateur bouts & was a fan of his, but to me he only beat Arguello at the end of his career & on his 4th move up in weight, & Panama Lewis had to help him cheat to do that, he beat an aging Cervantes for the title & still went down once, he was put down by D. Johnson, & Kameda, Johnson had decent power, but none had great power.

Pryor started at LW, yet he never fought once there, why, because the LW division was loaded at the time, even guys, like A. Ganigan & G. Gonzalez, big power guys were in the lower top 10 & I think would have had a chance to hurt power, his camp knew that & avoided the division, & went to an easier pickins, JWW division that had almost nothing, but an old champ & a #1 contender in Mamby that had no power, yet somehow, Pryor also avoided Mamby, why because he was an excellent boxer & natural JWW, so he fought #4 D. Johnson instead, he never would have won the LW title, that's why they moved him to JWW, so he beat an Aging
Arguello & cheated him also, by the their 2nd fight, he had cheated & taken away Arguellos heart & will to win against Pryor, he beat an aging Cervantes, other than that, Pryor did nothing except compile a nice record against the bum of the month club guys.

I wish Duran had stopped off at JWW at ended the Pryor hoopla! or wished he had fought more top 10 guys at LW, Pryor was ranked 8th at LW in 1979, how about fighting Kenty, who he might have beaten, cause Kenty had no heart, but what about a war with S. O'Grady, J. Watt, A. Ganigan, G. Gonzalez, R. Mancini, H. Arroyo, R. Blake, A. Frias, R. Elizondo, Arguello at LW, Duran at LW, L. Bramble, E. Dejesus, H. Davis Jr. , Boza Edwards, E. Rosario who was on his way up to LW, anyway, you start to get the idea, why Pryor's camp moved him to an empty JWW division or a much easier one anyway, he could have made much more money fighting all those guys at LW, he probably could have beaten most of them, but we will never know, because he ran as fast as he could to JWW, lso he beat Hearns in the Amateurs, when Hearns was far from Physically mature, Pryor was just about fully Physically mature when he faced Hearns, in the Pros, Hearns puts him away like he did Duran, S.R. Leonard also beats, & I've even seen talk on Boxing forums about what if's against P. Cuevas, what a joke, Cuevas bombs Pryor out, also he could have fought J. Bumphus, L. Haley, R. Mayweather was working his way into LW, or Jose Luis Ramirez was at LW an ranked when Pryor was champ, B. Costello, R. Shields, & B. Curry were ranked JWW's, & also T. Crawley was coming up at LW, Pryor fought absolutely none of the above listed fighter's in their prime, any number of them would really have defined his career, not 3 bouts against aging guys, & 1 of them moving up for his 4th time, Pryor could be hit, he could be put down, and all by guys, not known for great Power, so I believe any good solid Power guy at LW or JWW takes him out, if he had fought them.
PRYOR, OVERRATED! Definitely.

Oh and I almost forgot, Camacho, & Jimmy Paul were coming up, Camacho would have won a decsion over Prior, & Paul would have Koed him.

& Chavez was not all that far from LW, so if Pryor had not drugged out, he had a chance at Chavez in the future.

How's that for a Hard on, how could anyone think that Arguello moving up to his 4th division beats a prime Tszyu and a Natural at the weight, LOL.

[Rspen46]

Kostya did not have to use his excellent boxing skills much as a Pro as it came so easy to him, to win, he had over 200 amateur fights where he was much more a boxer than puncher, plus he was a natural at the weight, Arguello was on his 4th move up in weight, so he loses to Tszyu based on that, Pound for Pound, in their own natural divisions, yes Arguello is the greater fighter, but not at JWW

Tszyu is top 10, & probably top 5 JWW, Arguello would be outside the top 10 at JWW all time.

[CHEECH]

''he could have fought J. Bumphus, L. Haley, R. Mayweather was working his way into LW, or Jose Luis Ramirez was at LW an ranked when Pryor was champ, B. Costello, R. Shields, & B. Curry were ranked JWW's, & also T. Crawley was coming up at LW, Pryor fought absolutely none of the above listed fighter's in their prime, any number of them would really have defined his career''

Well that about sums it up about how much u know about that time period of boxing. u just hate pryor. that's all. most of those names above only made it to a title well after pryors second fight with arguello which was the point in time that pryor retina went bad and started freebasing. hell, he fought furlano n hinton and made them look great only bcuz he was never the same after arguello with his drug addiction and bad eye. since u did list crawley, I bet u from philly n here's the thing with crawley, started winning meaningful fights, id say his first around mayb 84 with robin blake eventually got a shot at bramble n got his ass broke off. u got that? didn't even get bramble at 135 n somehow he's even in the conversation about pryor who made his mark at 140? I luv boxing and boxing can always use more fans but some jive fake pushin all that fiction, sorry man u don't know boxing. not when it comes to aaron pryor u don't. or u just hate him n cant hide it.

[Rspen46]

I practically lived in his Gym in Cincinnati during that time with a couple of friends, we trained there and were gofers for Pryor and his crew, everyone in Cincinnati loved him, he was one of my all time favorite fighters to watch, but I know boxing and I knew Pryor more than most for being so close to the action, and I know what he was capable of and not, so nothing against him, he was a great guy when not on drugs, very generous and helpful, but dumber than a rock, his people also knew his limitations, that's why he was never allowed fight anyone in their Prime with power or any Prime fighter worth a darn near his weight class.

[Longhaul]

I was always a Pryor fan but I also wondered what was the hurry to pack up so fast and jump to 140.

[QueensburyRules]

I practically lived in his Gym in Cincinnati during that time with a couple of friends, we trained there and were gofers for Pryor and his crew, everyone in Cincinnati loved him, he was one of my all time favorite fighters to watch, but I know boxing and I knew Pryor more than most for being so close to the action, and I know what he was capable of and not, so nothing against him, he was a great guy when not on drugs, very generous and helpful, but dumber than a rock, his people also knew his limitations, that's why he was never allowed fight anyone in their Prime with power or any Prime fighter worth a darn near his weight class.

- -A Spec of sand downgrading a magnificent rock is it?

Next is chicken feathers top ten...only in boxing

[QueensburyRules]

I was always a Pryor fan but I also wondered what was the hurry to pack up so fast and jump to 140.

- -Uh, title shot bad HOF great...DUH!!!

[Longhaul]

- -Uh, title shot bad HOF great...DUH!!!

****k off arsehole nobody wants to hear what you say.Call up your butt buddy mc trouser snake and start some bs thread.