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How Would Bernard Hopkins Do Against ATGs In Their Primes? (No Haters/Huggers Please)

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    #11
    Originally posted by Counter right View Post
    On his best day, I can see Bernard beating every single one of those guys.
    Of course, on THEIR best days a case can be made for all of them beating Bernard

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      #12
      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
      Of course, on THEIR best days a case can be made for all of them beating Bernard

      Poet
      For some of them, but I could never see a guy like Les Darcy beating Bernard Hopkins.

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        #13
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        In Prime Bernard Hopkins Versus In Prime:
        Marvin Hagler
        James Toney
        Mike McCallum
        I can't comment on the other mw's you listed, but I can on the above three, we are also going to have to assume that all these guys are the same size i.e Hagler today would be a ww.

        Hopkins looks good against come forward punchers, with not to good hand speed like Johnson and Pavlik and little guys who don't have the power to hurt him like Oscar and Tito. Who he could also bully and rough up on the inside.

        Against Toney he would most probably lose by ud, Toney hand speed would be to much for him to effectively counter and Toney would make the necessary adjustments throughout the fight to neutralise Hopkins favourite attacks. Like the right hand, lead headbutt combo.

        McCallum beats him as well by ud, McCallum was an amazing boxing with solid technical skills, a case could be made that a past prime McCallum beat Toney in both of their fights, so I can see a prime McCallum beating Hopkins

        I think Hagler outworks him to a ud as well, fast hands, aggressive, iron chinned and a high work rate, a nightmare combination for Hopkins. Who always struggled with boxers, who had fast hands and a high work rate.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
          I can't comment on the other mw's you listed, but I can on the above three, we are also going to have to assume that all these guys are the same size i.e Hagler today would be a ww.

          Hopkins looks good against come forward punchers, with not to good hand speed like Johnson and Pavlik and little guys who don't have the power to hurt him like Oscar and Tito. Who he could also bully and rough up on the inside.

          Against Toney he would most probably lose by ud, Toney hand speed would be to much for him to effectively counter and Toney would make the necessary adjustments throughout the fight to neutralise Hopkins favourite attacks. Like the right hand, lead headbutt combo.

          McCallum beats him as well by ud, McCallum was an amazing boxing with solid technical skills, a case could be made that a past prime McCallum beat Toney in both of their fights, so I can see a prime McCallum beating Hopkins

          I think Hagler outworks him to a ud as well, fast hands, aggressive, iron chinned and a high work rate, a nightmare combination for Hopkins. Who always struggled with boxers, who had fast hands and a high work rate.
          The presumption is same day weigh-ins. I don't think it would be a problem for B-Hop as he has never been one to let his weight fluctuate much in between fights. He's one of the few current fighters I can believe same-days wouldn't have much impact on.

          Poet

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