Prime 4 prime who would win Lennox Lewis vs Tyson/Holy

[BKM-]

I believe Holyfield would beat both if they're all in their prime. He had the the most complete package whereas Lewis would leave questions with his chin against Tyson, and Tyson would have a size disadvantage against Lewis.

[Dynamite Kid]

It said on a Lewis - Tyson HBO documentary that Lennox hurt his hand and had to take a few rounds off before he could use his right hand properly again.

Way to go you just outed yourself as a Lewis nuthugger in Sonnybox eyes.

[sonnyboyx2]

Sonny you enjoy having a pop at Lewis record but if you look at the big wins you quote for Holy and Tyson they arn't that great when you look at them.

Holyfield, wins 1 out of 3 against Bowe who always struggled to motivate himself and blew hot and cold. 43 yo Holmes at least 12 years past his best. 42 yo Foreman at least 18 years past his best

Tyson, I count the Tucker win as a good one but Tucker has always seemed over rated to me. Hide,Ruiz and Seldon all beat Tucker. Tubbs had talent but wasted it. Ditto Thomas. Spinks was a great light heavy and whilst I applaud him winning the HW title I don't count him as anything more than a decent heavy and Holmes was shot.

GJC i knew you would favour Lewis ha...

Bowe blew hot`n`cold you say - The Bowe who fought Holyfield (1) & (2) was a match for any heavyweight in history.

42yrs old Holmes was good enough to hand out a masterclass beating to Ray Mercer the same Ray Mercer who many believe was robbed against Lennox Lewis.. whereas Holyfield beat him quite easily.... 43yrs old Foreman was still a very dangerous fighter and had improved his boxing ability tremendously since his younger days, Foreman actually fought his way to be No1 contender for Holyfields title, so not the has-been you try to make him out to be.

Tony Tucker who Tyson beat was a formidable opponent who won the title beating a prime Buster Douglas and was undefeated 30-0... even after losing to Tyson Tucker was still good enough to beat Oliver McCall who poleaxed Lewis in less than 2rds.... Tucker then had well documented drug problems and was a shell of the fighter Tyson beat when he fought Hide, Seldon & Ruiz.

Tubbs & Thomas both had great boxing ability with Pink Thomas being avoided for years by Larry Holmes... Tyson took care of both of them and they was far from finished at the time... Tubbs lost a hotly desputed decision to Bowe 3yrs after losing to Tyson....

what you are failing to say in this is that Lewis beat Tyson 15yrs after Tyson had beat Thomas, Tucker & Tubbs... 15yrs yet you are claiming he would beat Tyson 6/10 yet Tyson still went 8rds with Lewis when 15yrs past his best.

Michael Spinks was a brilliant fighter and i would strongly fancy him to beat Lewis 6/10 as you say

[KittenFlaps]

Hard to say. I never really considered Tyson to have had his prime. What we consider his prime was when he was 19-20 years old. No one in is their prime at 19-20. He was kinda robbed of the ability to mature as a fighter.

That being said I think Holyfield can give any fighter trouble, but I don't think he could have taken Lewis.

[GJC]

I don't really count the Tyson fight as a great win for Lewis but lets be realistic after the second round it was pretty obvious that short of landing a ko punch from nowhere on a Lewis who had let his concentration slip there was no way Tyson could win.Tyson only averaged about 6 punches a round. I think that Lewis could have taken Tyson out at any time from the 4th. The only reason it lasted until the 8th was a mixture of Lewis measured approach, maybe a desire to punish Tyson and Tyon's heart.
I think using this fight as a measure of how they would measure up prime for prime is pointless.

[GJC]

what you are failing to say in this is that Lewis beat Tyson 15yrs after Tyson had beat Thomas, Tucker & Tubbs... 15yrs yet you are claiming he would beat Tyson 6/10 yet Tyson still went 8rds with Lewis when 15yrs past his best.

Michael Spinks was a brilliant fighter and i would strongly fancy him to beat Lewis 6/10 as you say

Sonny do you actually read what someone has written before you paste in your answer. I said i'd favour Tyosn 6/10 if you take the time to read it.
BTW Ali went 10 rounds with Holmes if that kind of thing impresses you.
Spinks was a brilliant fighter and an ATG light heavy.
So you don't think that 40 something Foreman and Holmes were well past their best then?

[sonnyboyx2]

what fighters did Lewis fight who was above Class B in his pro career?

The Mike Tyson who Lewis fought was 14yrs past his prime, 12yrs since beaten by Buster Douglas, 6yrs since finished off by Evander Holyfield, had served more than 4yrs in prison doing 3 sentences, had broken marraige behind him, was vocally claiming he enjoyed smoking weed, had ******* charges pending, was a heavy drinker and was also heavily sedated on perscription drugs... yet still went 8rds with Lennox Lewis.. now like it or not that was the same Tyson who both Danny Williams & Kevin McBride beat... Lewis even tried to sue Tyson to fight him again and Tyson was not a Top 10 ranked fighter, yet No1 contenders John Ruiz & Chris Byrd was avoided by Lewis to the point the governing bodies stripped Lewis of their belts.

[GJC]

Problem is Sonny is that you will over promote triangle theories when it suits and ignore them when it doesn't.
Also you take inexplicable one off against the odds wins as a testimony that a fighter was a great. A classic case being Douglas, he fought one of the all time great fights against Tyson but the fight against Tucker was terrible and did neither of them much credit.
Yes Tubbs and Thomas had talent, they wasted it.

[sonnyboyx2]

Sonny do you actually read what someone has written before you paste in your answer. I said i'd favour Tyosn 6/10 if you take the time to read it.
BTW Ali went 10 rounds with Holmes if that kind of thing impresses you.
Spinks was a brilliant fighter and an ATG light heavy.
So you don't think that 40 something Foreman and Holmes were well past their best then?

Yes Ali went 10rds with Holmes and that is why he is in the physical condition he is in today.. Holmes won every second of every round.. do i think Holmes could beat Ali.. no Ali wins 10/10 easily.

Holmes & Foreman in their 40s was both good enough to be contenders and win versions of the heavyweight title.. Holmes WBO.. Foreman undisputed.

[GJC]

what fighters did Lewis fight who was above Class B in his pro career?

The Mike Tyson who Lewis fought was 14yrs past his prime, 12yrs since beaten by Buster Douglas, 6yrs since finished off by Evander Holyfield, had served more than 4yrs in prison doing 3 sentences, had broken marraige behind him, was vocally claiming he enjoyed smoking weed, had ******* charges pending, was a heavy drinker and was also heavily sedated on perscription drugs... yet still went 8rds with Lennox Lewis.. now like it or not that was the same Tyson who both Danny Williams & Kevin McBride beat... Lewis even tried to sue Tyson to fight him again and Tyson was not a Top 10 ranked fighter, yet No1 contenders John Ruiz & Chris Byrd was avoided by Lewis to the point the governing bodies stripped Lewis of their belts.

Sonny how many times have we done this? If you wish to trawl through some of my old posts which contained detailed answers to you on these points and re hash the same arguments be my guest. Unlike you I do not have them on file to cut and paste into every forum that does or doesn't feature Lewis.
Also there is little point to replying because you never read the reply, e.g. show me where I said the Tyson win was a great win for Lewis? Easy enough if you care to read my postsin this forum to see where I said the opposite though?