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    #31
    Good question - one where you have to dig deep into your pool of boxing-knowledge to come up with some interesting answers.

    A lot of names have already been mentioned, but here are a few that haven't:


    Carl Chancellor - 139lbs
    Tim Noble - 100lbs
    Garing Lane - 88lbs
    Corey Sanders - 88lbs
    Adenilson Rodriguez - 87lbs
    Joe Bugner - 76lbs
    James Tillis - 73lbs
    Tim Witherspoon - 69lbs
    David Bay - 68lbs
    Shannon Briggs - 68lbs
    Craig Paine - 62lbs
    Danny Williams - 61lbs
    Al Cole - 60lbs
    Larry Holmes - 59lbs
    Bert Cooper - 56lbs
    Mike Weaver - 55lbs
    "Bonecrusher" Smith - 55lbs

    We need more fun trivia, so when this thread fizzles out, I hope sonnyboyx2 will post the obvious follow-up question: Name fighters who have LOST over 30lbs during their carrer! Not nearly as many candidates as for this one... so that would be quite interesting.
    Last edited by Bundana; 12-30-2009, 07:03 PM.

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      #32
      Guillermo Jones.

      Started out as a WW, even weighed in as low as 145 lbs. He beat Firat Arslan for the WBA Cruiserweight title last year.

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        #33
        How ****** couldu be,no boxer will move up in weight unless he is a great fighter,and not going to get there ass wopped,but most fighters will keep fighting a lower weight or maintain there weight to be competitve!!!why do u think mayweeter wanted to fight marquez,try to lower hi weight instead of going up and fighting lets say chad dawson,cuz it just aint a smart move,u must be very skinny,all a fighter has to do is change there diet around!!!!!

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          #34
          Add this to the thread:


          2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
          2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
          2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
          2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
          2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
          2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
          2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs

          144-149 = 5 lbs difference in three years.



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            #35
            Pacs weight is a non issue.



            His getting faster, getting stronger, and gaining better punch resistance all while KOing bigger fighters is what looks funny.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Aldo-Raine View Post
              Pacs weight is a non issue.



              His getting faster, getting stronger, and gaining better punch resistance all while KOing bigger fighters is what looks funny.
              Can you prove to us where he got faster. I don't see it. He looks a little slower now compared to a few years back.

              As for power, it makes sense that he would hit harder now, for two reasons: He is cutting far less weight, and Alex Ariza's plyometrics, ballistic training, etc.

              Punch resistance can be improved. That's the point of utilizing sparring partners such as Shawn Porter. The way to train for a hard hitting fighter (Cotto) who is bigger than you is to spar with an even harder hitting fighter who is bigger still (Porter).



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                #37
                Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                Can you prove to us where he got faster. I don't see it. He looks a little slower now compared to a few years back.

                As for power, it makes sense that he would hit harder now, for two reasons: He is cutting far less weight, and Alex Ariza's plyometrics, ballistic training, etc.
                There is a video on youtube that was posted on b-scene where Lampley, Lederman and Steward all said what I said.

                Pac is faster..bigger and stronger.

                Steward said Pac was having his wars take on eefect on him and then all of suden vs. Diaz...he said Pac looked like he never been in a war.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Go Blue View Post
                  There is a video on youtube that was posted on b-scene where Lampley, Lederman and Steward all said what I said.

                  Pac is faster..bigger and stronger.

                  Steward said Pac was having his wars take on eefect on him and then all of suden vs. Diaz...he said Pac looked like he never been in a war.
                  Who cares what the hell Lampley, Lederman and Steward said? I have eyes. I can see and think for myself. He is not faster. He actually looks a little slower to me. At the very best, he has the same speed as he had at lower weights. Not faster. That's complete bull**** and you know it.

                  And since when did PED's make anyone faster? He is bigger by just five pounds in three years. Re-read that. FIVE pounds in THREE years. That's nothing! He is stronger because he isn't cutting as much weight. You know what cutting too much weight does to a fighter? It makes him weaker. FFS, do the math. He also has a great strength and conditioninbg coach now.

                  Why the fuck am I having to explain this ****?



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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bundana View Post
                    Good question - one where you have to dig deep into your pool of boxing-knowledge to come up with some interesting answers.

                    A lot of names have already been mentioned, but here are a few that haven't:


                    Carl Chancellor - 139lbs
                    Tim Noble - 100lbs
                    Garing Lane - 88lbs
                    Corey Sanders - 88lbs
                    Adenilson Rodriguez - 87lbs
                    Joe Bugner - 76lbs
                    James Tillis - 73lbs
                    Tim Witherspoon - 69lbs
                    David Bay - 68lbs
                    Shannon Briggs - 68lbs
                    Craig Paine - 62lbs
                    Danny Williams - 61lbs
                    Al Cole - 60lbs
                    Larry Holmes - 59lbs
                    Bert Cooper - 56lbs
                    Mike Weaver - 55lbs
                    "Bonecrusher" Smith - 55lbs

                    We need more fun trivia, so when this thread fizzles out, I hope sonnyboyx2 will post the obvious follow-up question: Name fighters who have LOST over 30lbs during their carrer! Not nearly as many candidates as for this one... so that would be quite interesting.
                    James Toney - more than 50
                    Michael Moorer - 80 lbs from lowest to highest 171 to 251
                    Oliver McCall - more than 40
                    David Tua - more than 40
                    Joe Siciliano
                    Eric "Butterbean" Esch
                    Sam Langford
                    Guillermo Jones - more than 50
                    Jorge Fernando Castro
                    George Foreman
                    Thomas Hearns
                    Vassily Jirov
                    Orlin Norris
                    Manny Pacquiao - more than 40


                    surprisingly - Delahoya put 30 but no more , maybe really slightly less
                    also - i do not consider roy jones here - as it was obvious he could have easily make less than 190 in his fight with ruiz where he was officially 193.

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                      #40
                      I don't think I saw Freddie Steele mentoned here. He started at 105lbs as a very young teenager and won the middleweight title. I am not sure if he fought any higher than 160 though...

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