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(POLL)Alexis Arguello Or Floyd Mayweather, who is the greater fighter?

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    #41
    Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
    The point is, I'm opposed to the underlying ideology whether it comes equipped labor camps and massacres or not.
    Sure well thats a matter of political taste but it is a bit strong to lump ********ic socialism and the extreme of Soviet Communism together.
    I'm taking a real stab in the dark and putting you at right of centre here but I wouldn't label you a ******* because of that.

    I reject both. If a majority voted to have you burned at the stake would that make it any less evil?

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    No, but it would be ********ic I guess
    Back at you though just because an odious regime is anti communist does it put it on the side of the angels?

    Oh and fellow travellers is a hell of an emotive term to use, surely you don't think that McCarthy was anything other than a rabble rousing opportunistic half wit?

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      #42
      Originally posted by GJC View Post
      Sure well thats a matter of political taste but it is a bit strong to lump ********ic socialism and the extreme of Soviet Communism together.

      I'm taking a real stab in the dark and putting you at right of centre here but I wouldn't label you a ******* because of that.
      Not really, what I am is a Liberterian which essentially makes me anti-authoritarian. I don't believe anybody, either collectively or individually, has the right to tell another individual what to do or not to do if they are not directly harming someone else ie. murdering or raping for example.


      Originally posted by GJC View Post
      No, but it would be ********ic I guess
      Back at you though just because an odious regime is anti communist does it put it on the side of the angels?
      I would not. As I stated before I have no use for the Batistes and Pinochets of the world either. I find that sort of thing distastful in the extreme.


      Originally posted by GJC View Post
      Oh and fellow travellers is a hell of an emotive term to use, surely you don't think that McCarthy was anything other than a rabble rousing opportunistic half wit?
      It's an accurate term that wasn't coined by McCarthy. As for McCarthy himself, he was a baffoon who did more to HELP the cause of international Communism with his demogogic antics. It gave Communists an enormous crutch in that from his time on any time someone opposed Communism they could just scream "McCarthyism!" and put their opponents on the defensive. McCarthy wasn't concerned about Communism he was concerned about his own personal bid for power and simply used anti-Communism as a vehicle. Were there Communists inside the US governement selling the country out to the Soviets? Sure! The final proof came when the KGB archives where open which revealed the true extent of Soviet infiltration. McCarthy certainly didn't do a damn thing address the issue with his public spectacles not to mention that his tactics tip-toed perilously close to despotism themselves. They did far more harm than good and as far as I'm concerned Joe McCarthy can rot in hell.

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        #43
        Originally posted by GJC View Post
        OK give me your view on the ********ically elected Salvador Allende?
        Or the ********ically elected Mohammed Mosaddeq,Jacobo Árbenz Guzmán,Patrice Lumumba

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          #44
          Arguello but not because of talent alone. A great fighter finds an opponent who will bring the best out of them and fights them in such a way that makes it an ATG fight. Not just in terms of talent, but also in terms that makes people talk about it for years to come, regardless of era or contemporaries.

          What comes to mind is of course versus Pryor. In the case of Ali, fighting Frazier elevated him from one of the greatest to "the Greatest". Duran & Leonard, Hearns & Hagler, Prime & Megatron, Balboa & Creed, etc.
          Last edited by JC Warrior; 09-27-2009, 01:02 AM. Reason: clarity

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