10 greatest title reigns

[Jim Jeffries]

Great Thread.

I haven't made a list but will do in the near future.

Just a couple of names that would need consideration, not saying they should be definates but worth considering all the same. Myung Woo Yuh, Kaosai Galaxy and Joe Calzaghe.

I certainly wouldn't have Hopkins that high.

I would have Dariusz Michalczewski, with 23 title defenses (20 by KO/TKO,) against Virgil Hill, Montell Griffin, etc, on there before Calzaghe. As for Duran, what does a non title fight, outside of LW, have to do with his title reign? Wilfredo Gomez deserves a mention as well.

[JAB5239]

Chavez should be #1 on that god damn list. He isn't even on it. I'd whipe my fookin arse with that list mate. They really screwed up with this one.

Chavez has a claim to this list, but no way should he be rated above Louis. His 13 defenes at 140 is pretty good, but it should have only been 11, as Pernell Whitaker was robbed in their fight. I would rate his 9 defenses at 130 slightly higher, as it came against better fighters in my opinion.

[JAB5239]

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Maybe THE RING writers were overwhelmed when Hopkins surged ahead Hagler and Monzon in terms of title defenses at 160. Dela Hoya and Trinidad were huge fights financially but it isnt really any better than Monzon beating Napoles. ODLH was from 130 for crying out loud! His win over Glenn Johnson remains in my book as his best win in this weight.[/QUOTE]

I've always rated Tito as his biggest win at 160. Trinidad was coming of destructions of Reid, Vargas and Joppy as well as being the favorite going into the Hopkins fight and Nard took him to school. Very impressive performance in my opinion.

Really, Finito should be up right there behind Louis if this was a contest of being the highest number of title defenses regardless of quality of opposition with 21 and Khaosai Galaxy with 19... Definitely higher than Hopkins.

agreed.

And oh yes Finito and Galaxy were undefeated in their title reigns while Hopkins got beaten by RJJ and Taylor back to back. Hagler and Monzon were not beaten back to back by the same fighter in their reigns am I correct?

I believe you are my friend.

[JAB5239]

Great Thread.

I haven't made a list but will do in the near future.

Just a couple of names that would need consideration, not saying they should be definates but worth considering all the same. Myung Woo Yuh, Kaosai Galaxy and Joe Calzaghe.

I certainly wouldn't have Hopkins that high.

I wouldn't have Hopkins that high either.

Can't say I know enough about most Asian fighters and their competition to objectively say where they may or may not belong on this type of list.

I wouldn't put Calzaghe in the top 10, though his run as a champ is impressive because of its longevity. Problem is, he didn't start making the toughest fights till the end of his career and those came against a guy who legacy has still to yet be defined (Kessler) and man more than 40 years old (Hopkins). Still, he had a good run though.

[StarshipTrooper]

I wouldn't have Hopkins that high either.

Can't say I know enough about most Asian fighters and their competition to objectively say where they may or may not belong on this type of list.

I wouldn't put Calzaghe in the top 10, though his run as a champ is impressive because of its longevity. Problem is, he didn't start making the toughest fights till the end of his career and those came against a guy who legacy has still to yet be defined (Kessler) and man more than 40 years old (Hopkins). Still, he had a good run though.

I think that clearly Joe Louis' reign is head and shoulders above anyone else's. Not sure why they'd score Hopkins' that high. Bernard's been one of my favorites over the past 10-15 years but I never thought his reign was really comparable to say Hagler's. The Middleweight division just wasn't that deep during Hopkins' stay at the top.

Poet

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i know why... hopkins was ranked high bcoz GBP owns THE*RING...

I am afraid you are right. Seems like everyone agrees with us.

It's disgusting.

[THE REED]

No diss to hopkins... but how many elite middleweights did bernard really beat?

[StarshipTrooper]

Chavez should be #1 on that god damn list. He isn't even on it. I'd whipe my fookin arse with that list mate. They really screwed up with this one.

Please. The dude's record has more padding than the Stay-Puff Marshmellow Man.

Poet

[-CANE-]

I wouldn't have Hopkins that high either.

Can't say I know enough about most Asian fighters and their competition to objectively say where they may or may not belong on this type of list.

I wouldn't put Calzaghe in the top 10, though his run as a champ is impressive because of its longevity. Problem is, he didn't start making the toughest fights till the end of his career and those came against a guy who legacy has still to yet be defined (Kessler) and man more than 40 years old (Hopkins). Still, he had a good run though.

I'm not sure if I'd put Calzaghe in or not. Not until I've looked at everyones defenses but he certainly needs to be thought about.

I see what your saying about Calzaghe but the same could be said of many others with multiple title defenses.

I mean look at Joe Louis, 25 title defenses but how many were HOF'ers and great heavyweights, many criticized his opponents and called them bum of the month. (I'm not slagging J.Louis off as he is one of my favourite fighters and I'd probably have him at no.1 I'm just trying to show you that the same could be said of anyone as what your saying about Calzaghe)

When I get some time I'm really gonna try and come up with a list and also my reasons for the placings.

[JAB5239]

I'm not sure if I'd put Calzaghe in or not. Not until I've looked at everyones defenses but he certainly needs to be thought about.

I see what your saying about Calzaghe but the same could be said of many others with multiple title defenses.

I mean look at Joe Louis, 25 title defenses but how many were HOF'ers and great heavyweights, many criticized his opponents and called them bum of the month. (I'm not slagging J.Louis off as he is one of my favourite fighters and I'd probably have him at no.1 I'm just trying to show you that the same could be said of anyone as what your saying about Calzaghe)

Louis fought like 14 HOF'ers and beat the best of the best during his time.

When I get some time I'm really gonna try and come up with a list and also my reasons for the placings.

Its gonna be tough duty making that list, but I will look forward to it as I do all your posts.