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    #21
    The hardest puncher I've seen in the flesh was Hamed. I was in the cheap seats near the back of the NYNEX and I swear I could feel the concussion wave generated by those wicked shots.

    Hardest ever? Shavers, Jimmy Wilde, Ketchel ... maybe. Dunno.

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      #22
      Originally posted by JulioCesaChavez View Post
      Maybe. But he did struggle to KO a few blown up light heavies. It is difficult to assess. There were so many big punchers and Louis and Tyson are obviously very close to the top. I use to think it was Louis at one point too.

      During Joe's prime, which I consider going from the second Schmeling fight till the first Walcott fight, Louis was 21-0 (19). Buddy Baer was given a DQ loss because his managers wouldn't leave the ring as the round was set to begin, because their man was taking such a beating. In essence this should also be a TKO on Joe's record. The other to last the distance was Arturo Godoy who was stopped in 8 (I think) the next time he fought Louis. Interestingly enough, Godoy was only stopped one other time in a career with more than a hundred fights.

      Him struggling with Conn the first time and a couple others during his career is more a reflection of his patient fighting style, than his punching ability. In his immortal words "they can run, but they can't hide". And during his prime this was proven over and over again.

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        #23
        Originally posted by boxing_great View Post
        how much did joe louis weight at though?
        wasnt he only around 200 pds?
        Thats why he is ranked so high in my opinion. He was strong, but his knockout punches weren't based on power as much as precision punch placement and timing. If he had the technique of a Foreman or Shavers he still would have knocked guys out, but not nearly as many.

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          #24
          Originally posted by 3_Hooks View Post
          prime mike was probably the hardest and if he wasn't he was the best puncher.
          I reserve that spot exclusively for George Foreman. I don't think anyone matches George for raw power.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mugwump View Post
            The hardest puncher I've seen in the flesh was Hamed. I was in the cheap seats near the back of the NYNEX and I swear I could feel the concussion wave generated by those wicked shots.

            Hardest ever? Shavers, Jimmy Wilde, Ketchel ... maybe. Dunno.
            Since this is a "hardest puncher ever" discussion I think it has to be pretty much rserved for the big boys. P4p alot of guys would come into play, including Hamed. I saw him fight Augie Sanchez. We had decent but not great seats and his punches sounded like gunshots. What made it even more amazing is he walked by us on the way to the ring and he is tiny, tiny, tiny. You don't get a sense of it till you're actually next to some of these guys. Hagler was the same way.

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              #26
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Since this is a "hardest puncher ever" discussion I think it has to be pretty much rserved for the big boys. P4p alot of guys would come into play, including Hamed. I saw him fight Augie Sanchez. We had decent but not great seats and his punches sounded like gunshots. What made it even more amazing is he walked by us on the way to the ring and he is tiny, tiny, tiny. You don't get a sense of it till you're actually next to some of these guys. Hagler was the same way.
              Yeah. The wife had her picture taken with him years ago in Ibiza. She isn't tall and Hamed was a good three inches shorter than her. It's amazing to think such a small guy can hit with that kind of ferocity.

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                #27
                Wayne mCcolough.

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                  #28
                  George Foreman or Julian Jackson.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by boxing_great View Post
                    how much did joe louis weight at though?
                    wasnt he only around 200 pds?
                    doesnt matter how much he weighed

                    he had freakish power

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                      #30
                      yeah if we're talking about raw power it'd pretty much be a discussion of HW

                      same if we were talking about the quickest hands of all time, it'd mainly be a lower weights discussion

                      p4p hamed had crazy power, i reckon he hit as hard as your average MW

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