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    #31
    Max Baer(sooooooo underated), Liston, Louis, V. Klitschko, Tua, Holmes, Tyson

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      #32
      Originally posted by KidDynamite86 View Post
      Thanks for the replies guys. I've learned a lot of things in this thread so far

      But I have a question for the guys who picked the shorter fighters like Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, Jack Dempsey, etc. on beating Foreman.

      All Foreman had to do is to push them to make space if they ever got inside. And if they did get inside, I wouldn't think they would land more than 1-2 punches.

      But I do agree with fighters closer to Foreman's reach and height because they could outpoint him and outtire him like Ali did.
      Louis would counter George on the way in.....watch Louis-M. Baer for an idea. Baer was similar to George in style and power. Louis's straighter, more compact punches dissected him as had never been done before.....and he'd just lost his world title like two or three months before, so this was a hungry, almost in his prime Baer.

      For Tyson, it would be difficult, and truthfully, I wouldn't bet on in; but his head movement in his prime was superb and unlike Frazier, Mike didn't want to be right up in your chest; he wanted to nail you from mid-range, so George's uppercuts wouldn't be nearly as accurate as they were against Joe....and, since George liked blasting your from any range he could get, usualy long to mid, like Tyson, it would be a matter of handspeed, defense, and timing....all of which favour Mike.....and Mike had a good chin, better than Foreman's in my opinion. So, Mike could win, though it would be a difficult fight for him.

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        #33
        Ok, thanks. I gotta start checking out some Louis fights

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          #34
          Originally posted by KidDynamite86 View Post
          Ok, thanks. I gotta start checking out some Louis fights

          Louis-Baer would be Joe's equivalent to Ali-Williams and maybe Tyson-Spinks, except that Baer was near the top of his game where Williams and Spinks were past theirs.

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            #35
            Originally posted by KidDynamite86 View Post
            Although most of these would be hypothetical, which list of fighters could be able to beat a prime George Foreman? Keep it 1920- please

            Muhammad Ali DID...but the rest of my list I have a hard time thinking of. Sonny Liston is all that comes to mind.
            we never saw a prime foreman...
            I wouldnt count out this mutha ****a. even tho he was scared

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              #36
              Originally posted by Two Fisted Piston View Post
              Max Baer(sooooooo underated), Liston, Louis, V. Klitschko, Tua, Holmes, Tyson
              i think the young foreman is tailor made for max baer. baer was NEVER knocked out in a 84 fights, and only knocked down by joe louis and lou nova and both times he got up right away. baer was also a heavy fisted puncher.
              i think his chin is better than foreman's, these two would slug it out, and baer can take more. in the late rounds he'd beat foreman down.

              liston's technique is MUCH better than foreman's, he had a great jab, and was a big puncher. also foreman idolized liston, foreman would be afraid of liston, not the other way around.

              joe louis. i think joe louis is the most complete heavyweight THAT EVER LIVED. even though he's the smaller man, here, his hands are much faster than foreman's and joe throws clean combinations, and is much busier. i think, like KDOGG and M26 said, this fight would look like louis - baer, except i don't see foreman hanging around that long. by the middle rounds, louis would beat foreman down, after tasting the canvas himself. foreman isn't a skilled boxer / mover like billy conn, he'd be standing in front of louis all night - the one place u don't wanna be

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                #37
                Originally posted by dr filth View Post
                i think the young foreman is tailor made for max baer. baer was NEVER knocked out in a 84 fights, and only knocked down by joe louis and lou nova and both times he got up right away. baer was also a heavy fisted puncher.
                Baer was floored 3 times and 10 counted by Louis, or more accurately he quit and took the count on one knee on the floor.

                Against Nova, Baer was floored twice, the second KD as he was face planted to the canvas and the fight was stopped while Baer was still down.

                Both were decisive KO losses.

                Baer was a womanizing playboy who by his own admission didn't like fighting, was a slacker in training, a clown in and out of the ring and admittedly quit and took the count in his fight against Joe Louis to avoid punishment. This is the guy that was having *** in his dressing room before defending his title against Braddock. What kind of mindset is this to carry into a slugfest with George Foreman?

                Baer NEVER displayed the type of heart and resolve to dig deep and come back from a tough drag-em-out brawl a Foreman match-up could materialize into.

                Prior to the Louis fight, Baer did not want to even enter the ring. Baer made a decision in his dressing room that Louis was going to slaughter him and he couldn't go through with the fight. Baer had to be persuaded by a disgusted Jack Dempsey to leave the dressing room and "get in the ring and fight like a champion."

                "I could have got up, but it wouldn't have done me any good.....Quit? Sure I quit. But I was just being smart." - Max Baer after being KO'd by Joe Louis

                After defeating Tony Galento, Baer was elevated to #1 contender status and was the logical opponent for Louis in a title fight. Baer wasn't too eager to face Louis again and got out of it by asking for too big a purse and pricing himself out of the fight.
                Last edited by SABBATH; 01-22-2007, 08:56 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SABBATH View Post
                  Baer was 10 counted by Louis, or more accurately he quit and took the count sitting on the floor.

                  Against Nova, Baer was face planted to the canvas and the fight was stopped while Baer was still down.

                  Both were decisive KO losses.

                  Baer was a womanizing playboy who by his own admission didn't like fighting, was a slacker in training, a clown in and out of the ring and admittedly quit and took the count in his fight against Joe Louis to avoid punishment. This is the guy that was having *** in his dressing room before defending his title against Braddock. What kind of mindset is this to carry into a slugfest with George Foreman?

                  Baer NEVER displayed the type of heart and resolve to dig deep and come back from a tough drag-em-out brawl a Foreman match-up could materialize into.

                  Prior to the Louis fight, Baer did not want to even enter the ring. Baer made a decision in his dressing room that Louis was going to slaughter him and he couldn't go through with the fight. Baer had to be persuaded by a disgusted Jack Dempsey to leave the dressing room and "get in the ring and fight like a champion."

                  "I could have got up, but it wouldn't have done me any good.....Quit? Sure I quit. But I was just being smart." - Max Baer after being KO'd by Joe Louis

                  After defeating Tony Galento, Baer was elevated to #1 contender status and was the logical opponent for Louis in a title fight. Baer wasn't too eager to face Louis again and got out of it by asking for too big a purse and pricing himself out of the fight.
                  i knew baer was ****ing hollywood sluts, but i never knew he did it right before a fight...but u can't deny that baer had a lot of natural talent... all i'm saying is that if baer could show up motivated to fight foreman and actually train for the fight instead of ****ing half of hollywood, i think he could beat him

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                    #39
                    Listen to what sabbat says, this guy actually speaks with logic.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
                      Listen to what sabbat says, this guy actually speaks with logic.
                      who the **** asked u for your opinion? u think any fighter that lived before the 1960's is a bum, that sounds like logic to me

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